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The Orcas survey scanner bonus also gave bonus to fleet ships
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Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-02-24 15:44:21 UTC
I would like if the orcas survey scanner bonus also granted the bonus to mining ships in the fleet so they could get extended range as well.

Thankyou! :)
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2014-02-24 15:46:13 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
I would like if the orcas survey scanner bonus also granted the bonus to mining ships in the fleet so they could get extended range as well.

Thankyou! :)


Sounds good to me, if they could figure out how to code it. Btw there is a thread where they're asking about how to improve survey scanner functionality. Find it and post this there, too.

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Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-02-24 22:26:43 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
I would like if the orcas survey scanner bonus also granted the bonus to mining ships in the fleet so they could get extended range as well.

Thankyou! :)


Sounds good to me, if they could figure out how to code it. Btw there is a thread where they're asking about how to improve survey scanner functionality. Find it and post this there, too.


I don't see why it wouldnt be hard to impliment, but it would certainly give this rather un-used trait some life.
Zerlestes
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-02-24 23:06:36 UTC
why should a miner bother with the survey scanner in 0.0 any good miner
knows how much m3 per roid is in the hidden belt the scanner is only usefulle
for empire because the roids are so small

and lets face it if you have a slot to spare for a scanner you should be ganked
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#5 - 2014-02-24 23:39:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Little Dragon Khamez
Zerlestes wrote:
why should a miner bother with the survey scanner in 0.0 any good miner
knows how much m3 per roid is in the hidden belt the scanner is only usefulle
for empire because the roids are so small

and lets face it if you have a slot to spare for a scanner you should be ganked


To be fair I thought the op meant that whole groups could benefit from it when fleeted etc.
Adequate protection solves the ganking problem.

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-02-25 00:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Zerlestes wrote:
why should a miner bother with the survey scanner in 0.0 any good miner
knows how much m3 per roid is in the hidden belt the scanner is only usefulle
for empire because the roids are so small

and lets face it if you have a slot to spare for a scanner you should be ganked

It does tend to help me when im mning ice and there are other non-fleet members around. I can get a good idea how quickly myprecious glitter is getting burned away and if i should warp back to that roid warp to the next one after my dump.

I think the scanner should provide more information than it does currently. Where the hell is that thread they started....

edit: (forums had my post for a snack) I would find this useful if I was getting bonuses from an orca thats assisting in a different belt than i am, and i would need to know the contents of roids that are within lock/mining range but not scan range. Maybe the bonus could be tied to the mining laser range command module, can't remember what its called off hand. It would give a range bonus to the scanner that is also in sync with the range of your lasers.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2014-02-25 01:50:50 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
I would like if the orcas survey scanner bonus also granted the bonus to mining ships in the fleet so they could get extended range as well.

Thankyou! :)

Personally I would like to see the Orca gain a mid-slot to make fitting the survey scanner worthwhile.
Crazy Dave
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-02-25 02:07:34 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
I would like if the orcas survey scanner bonus also granted the bonus to mining ships in the fleet so they could get extended range as well.

Thankyou! :)



I second that. The orca is a support ship and should be able to grant bonuses in ALL areas of mining.
Crazy Dave
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-02-25 02:10:13 UTC
Zerlestes wrote:
why should a miner bother with the survey scanner in 0.0 any good miner
knows how much m3 per roid is in the hidden belt the scanner is only usefulle
for empire because the roids are so small

and lets face it if you have a slot to spare for a scanner you should be ganked


Im not so much interested in quantity of the roid as I am its location so I can get to it quicker. Such as when it is in a anomaly belt vice static.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2014-02-25 02:17:22 UTC
Zerlestes wrote:


and lets face it if you have a slot to spare for a scanner you should be ganked

How dare a miner fit anything that makes their game play more active! Shame on them, back to AFK/AFW game play for them!

Or how about we give all mining barges the same number of slots as T1 Cruisers have, and the same base fittings. Allowing them to make some real fitting choices & trade offs. We can count their high slots as '3' in all cases even though the Procurer only has one for example, because the role bonuses were a quick fix to avoid a whole graphical redo to give them all the power of three strip miners.
Meaning between Medium & Low slots they should have 11 Slots. So they can fit some tank and a scanner also. Or lots of tank. Or no tank and lots of utility.
Suddenly fitting a mining barge becomes a real choice, not a 'do it one of these two ways or it's obviously wrong' environment.

As for the original idea. I disagree. It could be a boosting ability from a c&c module for miners, or added to one of the existing modules. But a ship should not pass on special bonuses to a fleet that no other ship can. Any ship can pass on leadership bonuses. Any ship capable of fitting a C&C module can pass on boosts. Some are better at it, but none of them have a unique bonus.
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-02-26 16:23:29 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

As for the original idea. I disagree. It could be a boosting ability from a c&c module for miners, or added to one of the existing modules. But a ship should not pass on special bonuses to a fleet that no other ship can. Any ship can pass on leadership bonuses. Any ship capable of fitting a C&C module can pass on boosts. Some are better at it, but none of them have a unique bonus.


Fair enough, but then what about a mining link module that granted extended range of survey scanners on all ships in fleet?
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-02-26 16:32:38 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

As for the original idea. I disagree. It could be a boosting ability from a c&c module for miners, or added to one of the existing modules. But a ship should not pass on special bonuses to a fleet that no other ship can. Any ship can pass on leadership bonuses. Any ship capable of fitting a C&C module can pass on boosts. Some are better at it, but none of them have a unique bonus.


Fair enough, but then what about a mining link module that granted extended range of survey scanners on all ships in fleet?

I think it would fit in particularly well on the minin laser field enhancement link. extended range of lasrs + extended range of scanners in tandem. I would even go so far as to give it the exact same bonus amount. So the scanner will always have slightly longer range than lasers to determine which roids to move to next.
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-02-26 16:43:46 UTC
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

As for the original idea. I disagree. It could be a boosting ability from a c&c module for miners, or added to one of the existing modules. But a ship should not pass on special bonuses to a fleet that no other ship can. Any ship can pass on leadership bonuses. Any ship capable of fitting a C&C module can pass on boosts. Some are better at it, but none of them have a unique bonus.


Fair enough, but then what about a mining link module that granted extended range of survey scanners on all ships in fleet?


Replace the harvest capacitor link that is not utilized with this ability
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#14 - 2014-02-26 17:51:20 UTC
Kasife Vynneve wrote:
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:

As for the original idea. I disagree. It could be a boosting ability from a c&c module for miners, or added to one of the existing modules. But a ship should not pass on special bonuses to a fleet that no other ship can. Any ship can pass on leadership bonuses. Any ship capable of fitting a C&C module can pass on boosts. Some are better at it, but none of them have a unique bonus.


Fair enough, but then what about a mining link module that granted extended range of survey scanners on all ships in fleet?


Replace the harvest capacitor link that is not utilized with this ability


False, it is very useful if you want your fleet to pera-run shield boosters.