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Talneck
British Federation
#1 - 2014-02-26 13:08:21 UTC
Hi all ,
I am in an art course right now and I need models and or shots showing the difference and effects of model detail and texture detail , ideally models i can look at in detail using 3dsmax . The assignment requires i can show and demonstrate that texture maps do a lot more of the work than polygons. I was wondering if there is any eve resources available that i could use for this ?

any help is appreciated ,

Cheers.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#2 - 2014-02-26 13:40:37 UTC
First of all this is the wrong forum for this.

But this is what your looking for http://triexporter.codeplex.com/

And you have to find granny2.dll yourself and put it in the same folder as the TriExporter.exe

-k8

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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#3 - 2014-02-26 14:16:54 UTC
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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#4 - 2014-02-26 15:47:18 UTC
Texture maps are the salvation.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Talneck
British Federation
#5 - 2014-05-15 19:27:36 UTC
ok cheers , have downloaded tri , but having issues , when double clicking on the file saying model not loaded , why are these things so hard to get going ! lol
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2014-05-15 21:13:52 UTC
Talneck wrote:
ok cheers , have downloaded tri , but having issues , when double clicking on the file saying model not loaded , why are these things so hard to get going ! lol

Because 3ds max is evil and it hates you, and everyone you know.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#7 - 2014-05-15 21:15:38 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=9241 maybe here you will find what you need, i have used it just now and it works :)

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AzAkiR NaLDa
Council of Exiles
Brave Collective
#8 - 2014-05-17 14:22:31 UTC
as bagrat pointed out there is a huge triexporter section in the tech lab. There are people helping eachother out and getting things fixed and up 2 date.

so you can eventually end up with shots like this:

http://lone-star-warriors.com/images/Maller_Wire_comp_01.jpg

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#9 - 2014-05-17 21:20:22 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Talneck wrote:
ok cheers , have downloaded tri , but having issues , when double clicking on the file saying model not loaded , why are these things so hard to get going ! lol

Because 3ds max is evil and it hates you, and everyone you know.

This, very much this >>>>^^ ebil!!!!

OP, you may either want to make the models or buy them. Exporters like this are iffy, and anything other than that such as "free" are usually trash.

However... I'd point you to http://www.scifi3d.com/
Some of those models are actually properly modeled and textured, and free.

Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Texture maps are the salvation.

No... not really. Shaders are (e.g. tessellation shaders etc), but texture maps can be useful for shader usage.


hehe OP put it off for the last minute, little snag in teh plan.

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AzAkiR NaLDa
Council of Exiles
Brave Collective
#10 - 2014-05-17 22:11:20 UTC
the only real thing textures do for your mesh is to make it look alot better. Normal maps are the only real change maker in the textures. other then that as webvan pointed out you rely on shaders and combine that with textures, floating points and other shader vectors to make it look shiny.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-05-19 15:15:49 UTC
AzAkiR NaLDa wrote:
the only real thing textures do for your mesh is to make it look alot better. Normal maps are the only real change maker in the textures. other then that as webvan pointed out you rely on shaders and combine that with textures, floating points and other shader vectors to make it look shiny.

Competent texture well help getting from merit ti distinction BUT you need to be near a distinction without them anyway.

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Xenuria
#12 - 2014-05-19 16:30:10 UTC
Talneck wrote:
Hi all ,
I am in an art course right now and I need models and or shots showing the difference and effects of model detail and texture detail , ideally models i can look at in detail using 3dsmax . The assignment requires i can show and demonstrate that texture maps do a lot more of the work than polygons. I was wondering if there is any eve resources available that i could use for this ?

any help is appreciated ,

Cheers.

Odd that you are using 3ds instead of Maya, but whatever.
I feel sorry for you because last I checked getting models and textures to play right with each other was very difficult. You HAD to use gimp and HAD to use 3ds. I don't know if they fixed that yet but I wish you the best of luck.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2014-05-19 16:49:10 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Talneck wrote:
Hi all ,
I am in an art course right now and I need models and or shots showing the difference and effects of model detail and texture detail , ideally models i can look at in detail using 3dsmax . The assignment requires i can show and demonstrate that texture maps do a lot more of the work than polygons. I was wondering if there is any eve resources available that i could use for this ?

any help is appreciated ,

Cheers.

Odd that you are using 3ds instead of Maya, but whatever.
I feel sorry for you because last I checked getting models and textures to play right with each other was very difficult. You HAD to use gimp and HAD to use 3ds. I don't know if they fixed that yet but I wish you the best of luck.

Might be the stockholm syndrome talking but max can be good for that kind of thing, i don't remember gimp being a necessary though.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#14 - 2014-05-19 23:03:23 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Might be the stockholm syndrome talking but max can be good for that kind of thing, i don't remember gimp being a necessary though.
GIMP? Yeah, it's not an industry standard by any means. The typical standard is either Photoshop and/or Zbrush. The standard being what companies use, what colleges teach, what certs and degrees that exist around them or included within. GIMP is no where in there...

Even in indie development or freelancing, GIMP is used, but far from any standard. Even Paintshop Pro may be more widely used in actual projects compared to GIMP. For just general personal work, a free program to edit a few things with, GIMP would certainly have the edge there. But then you have things like project dogwaffle taking away GIMP's general user base, or autodesk putting out nice drawing/editing apps for cheap, GIMP gets even further marginalized. If it weren't for the large Blender 3D community promoting GIMP with newbie friendly how-to tutorials and videos, GIMP would probably see hardly any activity in texturing for modeling projects.

And for 3ds max, no one ever "HAD" to use it to make textured play nice with models. There have always been good alternatives, and even some of those have fallen into the standard depending on the disciplines and applications.

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