Warfare & Tactics

link are fine.

Other day we had 4 guys pvping, everyone had their own fleet and before we could engage enemy stabbed rifter we had to move approx 7 link alts to system and then blob the dangerous rifter.

after we left local and local count dropped form 12 to 1 which was rifter pilot with his capsule.

Actually, I try to hide from my fleet unless it starts getting 3-4:1. My corpmates have taken to putting cloaked alts outside my plexes so they know when targets come my way so they can rush in to try and whore on the kills.

TBH - That is why I prefer they are removed completely.

Removes their excuses for failure.

Just because they are freely available (which is arguable at best) doesn't mean it's not broken.

Any time the counter to a mechanic is get another account so you can have your own it is broken. Simple.

Bringing the boosts on grid is a simple way to balance them out. You want the benefit - put them on the field. Alts were not invented for boosts etc, falcon alts were the bane of solo/small gang pvp for some time but they showed up on KM and if you knew how to you could somewhat counter them and killem when they entered the fight.

Then the 'leet' solo pvp'er realised that they could 'solo' with OGB's and people couldn't prove otherwise so they got a raging hard on about all the kills they were getting.

Boosts are fine when you scale up combat and everyone has them but for smaller scale they are just op'd to hell and back. Bring them on grid so they are vulnerable. As boost hunting is something you have to set yourself up for not something you can just do on the fly - you either need your own alt set up for it (again the argument of 'get your own' hence broken) or someone in your fleet needs to set up and remove themselves from being effective in combat.

Bringing them on grid is not as hard as CCP is making it out to be IMO (there is already code that operates on grid only - overview/fleet watchlists). I think they are just scared of all the subs they will lose for alt accounts if they do so, afterall someone has to pay for those accounts even if the players who use them plex it.

Yeah your post pretty much nailed it about the difference when using boost toons v ecm alts.

Personally I used to prefer getting ecm'd as I knew who the ecm alts were and was ready to try and counter them when they appeared on field. As a solo pvp'er I can setup for general pvp and still have a counter plan for ecm'ing. This is not practical if I want to go roam to have a ship that I can pvp in as well as hunt down and kill OGB's toons.

Having said that I really don't worries about OGB too much as I can probably claim only about 15%-20% of my solo deaths are due to OGB.

But the above quote is by far the main reason IMO that CCP won't ever bring them on grid.

I thought that too for ages but after hearing Fozzie at Eve Down Under I also now believe boosts will go ongrid at some point.


The real question now is - will they stay ongrid forever or will CCP change it back after a while when they see their bank balance going south?

So I pay $15 x 2 a month = $30 a month.
When I have one account I pay $15 x 1 = $15 a month.
CCP will lose $15 - So 50% of their earning potential from me a month.



Yawn????
Maffs????

+1

plus boosters need an agrression timer, if they start boosting, they are agressed.....that would make things more interesting ;)

Honestly off grid links also bring many disadvantages that people seem to ignore. Admittedly they are practically invulnerable, but being off grid means also they cant switch between systems freely as other force multipliers which are on grid. This forces the guy using links to fight in a fixed system which more often than not completely diminishes the link benefits.
Of course this is less of an disadvantage in (faction warfare) lowsec where most fights dont happen on gates but in deadspace and over a strategic objective. Faction warfare lowsec seems also to be the source of most of the tears so the solution in my opinion would be a incursion like system which forces links on grid in faction warfare lowsec and leave them off grid anywhere else.

I'm fine with that.