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Jita locked out again.... this is getting worst.

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#341 - 2014-02-25 21:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Explorer
Mag's wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Luwc wrote:
Lock Jita local.
…except, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out.

Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.

Just reposting this.
CCP Explorer wrote:
Tippia wrote:
…a cap that is set to accommodate the 1175 non-spammers and the 1000 spammers. If you were to remove the spammers, somehow, the cap would be set to 1175 instead since that's how much load the system can take (after all, the spammers don't contribute to that load). The cap is set based on the load generated by the players logging or jumping into the system. Removing the people that add nothing to that load would just reveal that the actual cap is 1175, so you'd still have just as many slots available for the non-spammers and you'd still not get in.
Again what Tippia said.
A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#342 - 2014-02-25 22:24:48 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Luwc wrote:
Lock Jita local.
…except, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out.

Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.


HI!!! -------->Lol<------- I'm a link!

lol
That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#343 - 2014-02-25 22:30:34 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Luwc wrote:
Lock Jita local.
…except, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out.

Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.


HI!!! -------->Lol<------- I'm a link!

lol
That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.


Look at the post just above yours...


Hi! I'm not a link --------> Lol <--------- but I am laughing at you.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#344 - 2014-02-25 22:32:49 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Luwc wrote:
Lock Jita local.
…except, of course, that it wouldn't solve anything since the spammers in question aren't locking anyone out.

Wrong. They make up a percentage of the cap number.


HI!!! -------->Lol<------- I'm a link!

lol
That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.


Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#345 - 2014-02-25 22:42:04 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
lol
That just made you look dumb. Load and pilots in system are totally different. AFAIK Jita is capped at 2100 pilots, not 2100 pilots in space. What I believe that means is if there are 200 spammers and 500 afk out of 2100 players in system you have 700 people being queued at the gate extra than if you had no spammers and afks in Jita were logged out with inactivity timer.


Look at the post above yours, numbskull.


This is what happens when you have spreadsheet application devs theorycrafting Eve Online.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#346 - 2014-02-25 22:43:16 UTC
Lol Humour.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#347 - 2014-02-25 23:45:29 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#348 - 2014-02-25 23:56:20 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.



Hi! ------>Lol<------- I'm a link!

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#349 - 2014-02-26 00:23:49 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.


Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying:

CCP Explorer wrote:
A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.


Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#350 - 2014-02-26 00:28:34 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.


Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying:

CCP Explorer wrote:
A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.


Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this.


It's that kind of posting that makes these forums not only educational and informative, but entertaining too!!

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#351 - 2014-02-26 00:31:49 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Look at the post above yours, numbskull.

I read the post which is why I set the 200 spammers 500 afk people as an example, not just spammers, numbskull.


Here we have it, ladies and gentlemen. The only poster on the forums who can argue against a blue saying:

CCP Explorer wrote:
A very, very low percentage number. So low it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.


Just because I told them about it. Now that is antagonism, some of you could learn from this.


It's that kind of posting that makes these forums not only educational and informative, but entertaining too!!


If you want a good laugh, read the link in his sig. Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#352 - 2014-02-26 00:49:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it.


Reading it now. Lol

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#353 - 2014-02-26 00:55:30 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Or better yet, his thread in Assembly Hall about timers, if you can find it.


Reading it now. Lol


I take full credit for his deciding that timers should be gone entirely. You know, since he was trying to make them 48 hours instead.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#354 - 2014-02-26 01:13:42 UTC
I have to say that so far my favorite is this gem...

Quote:
Players and Player actions should always be > Server.


And...

Quote:
Imo player actions and player made content (such as sneak attacks in deserted systems) should have priority over automation as much as possible.


Both from that thread.

And this...

Quote:
Yeah this fantastic logic. "There's no problem with the application because if there was the users would have worked around it years ago.".


And other similar examples of monstrous hypocrisy in this thread.

So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players.

LOL.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#355 - 2014-02-26 01:17:00 UTC
The really funny part is when you realize that he doesn't see any inconsistencies between them.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lucy tzung
Doomheim
#356 - 2014-02-26 01:22:09 UTC
drop jitas sec to -0.9 just for 24 hours, and lock the stations lol (never take me serious)Big smile
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#357 - 2014-02-26 01:26:02 UTC
Don't get in the way of his narrative, CCP developer.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#358 - 2014-02-26 01:26:31 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players.


Exactly. :)

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#359 - 2014-02-26 01:35:27 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
So let's recap - the server should NOT give warnings to people when their stuff is being shot at because Players > Server. But we need divine intervention to fix Jita because Server > Players.


Exactly. :)


Oh my... there's more!

Quote:
Thats not possible if the server prevents players from creative play.


How dare the server prevent players from creative play (unless I personally approve of said creative play)!

This is pure gold.

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Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#360 - 2014-02-26 03:47:13 UTC
I can't fix jita