EVE General Discussion

Jita is not server capped.
Jita is player capped.

There is a significant distinction and difference between the two.

Furthermore, the ingame Jita Authorities have already told your ingame Capsuleer that the system cannot handle more business at this time.

That is all there is to it. Jita, as an ingame contextual system, cannot service anymore Capsuleers.

Its no different than a restaurant having to turn away clientele when their tables are all full.
Its no different than having to take a massive core dump, but all the public toilets are OCCUPADO.

Capacity is limited by Jitas ingame capacity, not by server capacity.
Its now a player action and competition issue, because it is player action and competition which is mutually restricting access to all of you into a finite system.

As depicted in the film "A Beautiful Mind", of John Forbes Nash, Jr.'s "Nash Equilibrium" theory on non-cooperative games, you are effectively blocking each other access to the goal you all desire. Feel free to inform yourself on the theories specifics to find a solution for how to bypass the literal blockage you are all causing each other by trying to pass through the same eye of a needle at Jita's gates.

If you tank your ships and don't stuff billions into the hold then you will not be ganked.

You already have a large number of counters to gankers at your disposal while the likes of slowcat blobs have no counters at all for subcaps.

You want CCP to protect you rather than protecting yourself.

But again, there is nothing special about the Jita gates. They work the same as all other gates. If you come across a locked system (which, admittedly, rarely happens on TQ) the exact same thing happens regardless of what the system is.

What they're asking for is that, in this particular case, things shouldn't work as normal — that they should be afforded special protections because they can't be arsed to protect themselves and because they could be even less arsed to gather intel pre-emptively and not put themselves in the exposed position to begin with. They're asking to be protected as if they had left the system even though they haven't even begun to do so.

Thank you this makes sense. Now that I reread what kimmi was saying i believe she was saying the same thing about why extended warp times wouldn't make sense.

It's the price you pay.

They should still put up a system wide message that says that the gates are locked. Its kinda stupid you can't find out until you land on the gate, and some of the bigger ships that a lot of people take to Jita, (Freighters/JF's) and weaker ships (Haulers/Claoky Haulers) are counting on being able to jump that gate before people can scan them and nab them on the other side.

Instead they land and get bumped around as they try and warp off.

Ganking isn't an issue really, the fact there is no forewarning the system is "closed" is. You would think nav computers would be updated with real time information on whether or not customs have restricted travel in certain areas. If CCP can broadcast a criminal entering system CCP should be able to broadcast a closed gate when entering a system.

Let's see ... how does it go ..

Oh yes!

If you don't want to face slowcat blobs there are areas of space that are safe from them, you just don't want to use the tools CCP have given you.

Or you could fly different ships. Like the ones that can counter slowcats.

And so on and so forth.

You just want CCP to protect you rather than protecting yourself.

This is actually not a completely terrible suggestion, and as you point out, would be somewhat consistent with ingame precedents.

Im ok with this. GJ Mario, I mean that sincerely.

Infact the more I think about this, the more workable and suitable it seems for many reasons.

All I get from this is "CCP don't get rid of my Saturday afternoon fish barrel...I don't know how to really PVP and depend on Jita restrictions".



Nope. You are wrong here. Jita closing gates is an abnormal system function comparable to every other system in EVE. Not even null battles have this arbitrary restriction in place. Jita is the only system in the game this applies to, and it is up to CCP to make this situation not impact the daily functions of EVE players, not EVE players having to change game method for one singular occurrence that only happens roughly 40% of game play time.

A simple message on entering the system (New Caldari for example)

"Jita Gates are experiencing slight delays due to high traffic volumes" Solves this whole issue.

No other system requires you to check a gate to see if it functions amywhere in the game, because instead you just get put into the tidi tunnel if load is to high.

Or what? Or pointless fallacy because you have no argument and can't answer simple questions?

Is it or is it not a necessary limitation? Does it or does it not maintain playability? If it's not capped the way it is now, how should it be capped? Also, do you even know what my preferred solution is?


The only problem with this is the false premise that you can't find out before you land on the gate. You can. People just choose not to. There is forewarning.