Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Don't pirate towers already have lower anchoring / unanchoring / onlining delays ?

I think they have 10% and 20% reductions in anchor/online time, yeah. I was thinking more like 50% to make pirate towers more mobile :).

Dont change due to price difference, as the price depends on the market. They cost so much, as there was no BPC drop for longer period and some people bought all the limited resource.
A few years before it was purely defense matter, harder deathstar was built from faction.
In these days it is easier to get proper fleet size, it is purely cost saving.

An interesting idea, although I think I'd rather see tower notifications disappear completely (imo no group should own a tower when they can't be bothered to notice if it's been reinforced or not). That said, I really do like the idea of making pirate towers less about fuel consumption and more about pirate-y things.

+1'd

not necessarily, since they will still be just as available as before, aside from who can actually use them

right now they are at the price they are because there is literally NO actual demand for them, the few that there are are mostly in wormhole space and not under threat.

you add this mechanic to them and yes, the price may go up, but it wont increase to a ridiculous degree, because their new mechanic would be aimed at the poorer, smaller groups, who coudlnt afford it, which means they wouldnt buy, which means the price would slowly once again lower into equilibrium with demand.

TL;DR right now they are priced ridiculously because theya re faction towers, not because of their effectiveness, but they cant go up to high, especially if the reason people want to price them higher is a mechanic designed for poorer people to use them. they will change in price to fit their market.

while this makes more sense within the design theme of EVE (and heaven knows we should get T2 towers at some point, me likely a khanid skinned tower), i think the reason for this was that they were "pirate" towers, and therefore were designed for hiding, raiding, etc.

though the only 2 issues with that would be, that the towers would be better served having the ability to be anchored off-celestial for the "pirate" feel, like having your own deepspace complex, and second that pirate factions in EVE are full-fledged empires and are given the term pirate fort he same reason Rome gave the northern tribes the term "barbarians", because theyw ere part of the "civilization club".

I like most of this, but I'm worried that even partial T2 resists would be incredibly OP on towers, which already have a ton of EHP...

I am also partial to the idea of "pirate" towers as being "for enabling piracy", but that's just because that's really cute.

Anchoring them off-celestial would actually be really cool, especially since it would create some kind of utility for the fact that towers show up with combat scanners right now. It would effect W-space and K-space staging system "moon coverage" though, so that might be something to look out for. (I don't think moon coverage is a sensible mechanic, but breaking it might cause balance issues).

Alternate idea for some balance to that: a tower anchored off-celestial has dramatically lower hitpoints, s.t. it's *better* (from a staging perspective) to stage on-celestial, but you can manage far off.

Of course, at some point we get from "tweaking stats" to "tweaking pos code" and at that point it becomes more of a pie in the sky dream. Delicious pie though.