Ships & Modules

I have advised my friend who is a month old, to do High Sec missions

I am wondering if there's any other ways for a new pilot to make some decent ISK?

Wormholes and Incursions are far too complex for him at the moment. I recommended for him to train his core skills and support skills up for now, rather than jumping into a tech 1 cruiser with weak skills. He plans to do PvP.

I can only think of two ways for him to make ISK at the moment:

High sec missions

Taking a tech 1 frigate to null sec and looting/salvaging (he would gain experience in null sec and learn the mechanics to help him with his PvP)

I am guessing that profit comes with research.
How about DED sites and a little bit of trading (very basic)? What would you say is beneficial for a new player?

One thing that could work is to get your friend to train up for a Noctis and just hang out in mission hubs and ask politely in local chat if anyone has wrecks they don't want. Offer to send them back 40% after you liquidate loot and salvage, if you do it right and prove you are reliable you could make anything up to 100m per hour if you are working flat out on good missions like Blockade, etc.

Even just doing a couple of crappy missions per hour you'd be looking at 20m per hour and there's not many newbie friendly professions that can better that - most of the high earning professions require some game knowledge and / or skills.

You might need to move around a bit to find somewhere that doesn't have a resident salvager from Pro Synergy, or just join Pro Synergy :)

The way it works is that people blue the wrecks, bookmark them and contract you the bookmark in the station.

Buy Plex from CCP and sell it.

manufacturing and trade are prob the biggest isk income sources for an individual pilot.
PI is easy and not time consuming.
fleet warfare is easy and decent income.
exploration for high sec combat sites or null sec hacking sites are easily accessable to a new player. (need level 4 hacking skills and a ship bonused for hacking).
i made my first bill by 3 weeks of age by scanning and finding wormholes and then getting (in game) friends to run them whilst i looted and salvaged. i then sold the stuff and split the rewards. i was quickly able to join in as a drake can tank C3 sites and the class 1 and 2 wh's are super easy.
salvager for hire is popular in many mission hubs.
null sec belt ratting is easy but dull.
missions are easy , dull and not a great income unless you have an uber 1200 dps missioning machine (ie not new players).

having said all this i would like to mention that new players will not have any sensible use for expensive stuff anyway and so the need for isk is minimal. The most important thing is to find something in eve that you enjoy and join a decent community that does that thing. Generally the fun stuff involves spending isk and the dull process of making isk is done to fund the fun stuff.

Just to hammer the point home: do FW.



All he has to do is roll a new character and dplex I made one the day after Christmas and spent most of the next 32 hours more or less farming. Earned an average of 70m isk (value of LP no cashout) per hour. That includes the 10 hours I spent sleeping and the 4 I spent consuming other media...




Doesn't count the orca I got out of an idiot in militia chat, that's not farming FW, that's farming players.

doesnt really work very well, never manage to finish a plex before someone else warps in and you either manage to get away or die, waste of time imo

i just buy a few plexes a month which ties me over to die some more

nullsec ratting is ok but you still need a decent amount of sp to compete with battleship rats, then the bounties aint much once you take into consideration the amount of ammo you use, the loot from rats is rubbish not even worth selling so process it and lose a ton of isk.

mining, boring and makes you wanna quit the game, especially in low/null as you cant afk mine

exploration is the most fun way to make isk ive tried, get scanning skills up a bit, cloaking too and search out data sites in null win the game and you get some decent loot, blueprints etc

salvaging also makes decent isk, i salvage ded sites in null once my corp clears them out as im not ready to solo them yet.

Buy a PLEX or two from CCP. Sell it on the market. There is your isk. Very simple & quick.

For me personally, I made money through mining. Yes, mining IS boring; however, it's the best money you can make without having to do something more time consuming and less profitable such as cheap level 1 missions.

How bad at the game can you be? FW farming carries very little risk with most militia's current attitudes toward farmers. Orbit button at 25, hit dscan every 30 seconds or so, warp if you see anything. Warp back, they're already gone. Wow, so hard.

Possibly repeating what others have said, but assuming you're ready for low-end missions...

1. Highsec anoms: same cost of entry as missioning, with added bonus of occassional commander wreck (nice drops, maybe some intact salvage)
2. Missioning, of course
3. PI if you have the isk to invest into it
4. Farm some COSMOS sites (without doing the COSMOS missions) for loot and salvage; just be aware that you'll probalby take a faction hit for doing it
5. IF you're not risk averse find some quiet low sec systems and do some ratting
6. If you don't mind the risk, join FW as others have suggested: doing offensive plexing yields very good LP which you can convert to ISK on the market

There are quite a few others but they require more-than-inconsequential ISK investment.