EVE General Discussion

Yes, but apparently not in enough detail to satisfy the ones having problems. Increasing the details to the level they want means increasing the load pretty severely (if nothing else because they keep moving the goalposts every time something they claim isn't available turns out to be available).

Dude, you drive a Jaguar with guns on it? Awesome!

>Less AFK
>More paying attention
>Not getting ganked on Jita gate
>Profit.

simple as that.

Because he makes a valid point. Others suggest to dock up or some other silly BS to avoid being ganked for a poor game mechanic outside their control so you guys can keep on taking advantage of those caught by it.

You shouldn’t have to not play the game you pay for because your market place is full.

Not really, no. He's making a strawman argument to cover for the fact that he can't be arsed with solving his own problems even though the game has provided him with many many mechanisms to do just that. Instead, he just throws up his hands and gives up and start get hostile when told that it's his own fault for choosing to not do anything.

Not only is it entirely in his control, taking precautions to get ganked is something that should be second nature if you play EVE. In this case, it is so trivially easy to do that it beggars belief that some people so wilfully skip over it and the only thing more mind-boggling is that they try to blame other people for their own decisions.

There is absolutely no reason why the game should protect him from his own explicit decision to refuse to do so himself.

Good news: you can play the game regardless. Claiming otherwise is idiotic and ignorant.

Since it's a player-created condition, it is very much in our control.
Getting ganked (or not) because of it is entirely in your control.

…aside from being entirely predictable and completely avoidable, unlike the dynamic and indeterminable situations that generate node crashes. But yes, if those could be predicted and avoided as easily and to the same kind of effect (i.e. avoiding it making no real difference to your gameplay) then people should avoid them as well.

dont make the players invulnerable i havent had my chance to gank anyone yet

OK, so it's not a band-aid, TiDi is the band aid, user cap is a fancy sleeve to cover the band-aid. Still, both are workarounds to deal with the fact that the Game (Software, Hardware) can't cope with the number of users - except maybe in the Ads.
Let's try it with an analogy. There's a highway and it's condition is so bad they have to reduce the speed limit to 20mph. Now is that a band-aid, a workaround or is it mechanics?

Anyway, I guess everyone gets what he deserves. If you (or we, all) are happy with TiDi then it will stay, if you're happy with closed gates without notice that's where CCP will stop.

Ahhh Tippia! For whom every problem caused by accidental limitations in game playability is something to be relished as if it was designed that way. I suspect Tippia would even argue that they shouldn't increase Jita capacity if they could because 'this is a good mechanic really and people can just dock up and stuff so there is no need to change it'.

Yes, ****** workarounds exist that allow the worst consequences of the problem to be avoided but only at the expense of more moderate problems. OP's suggestion is perfectly reasonable and a much better solution than a ****** workaround that is to the detriment of those who have to play during peak times but it will never be acted upon because of the whining of all those who cry whenever an opportunity for an easy kill is taken away from them.

It's easier to just pretend that the consequences of being stuck on the gate are a real feature rather than an unfortunate accident. Then Tippia can make the case that this should happen on more gates (random chance? every trade hub? all the time?) even when it doesn't need to because 'it's good, honest!'.

Or

There is no problem! [inserts list of workarounds] ~GD 2006-Present.

The form regulars can keep on yelling this, and dressing their opinion as fact, but it's a matter of opinion whether workarounds are an acceptable solution. The underlying problem will continue generating complaints, regardless of how often you use variations on the word 'idiotic' to address anyone who attempts to discuss it.

Repeated requests for CCP intervention to gameplay can be annoying where they nerf gameplay. Discussing how system caps and overcrowding can be alleviated so that the game can continue to support the existing playerbase doesn't have to fall into that category. I'm not even sure why there's an assumption those who want to talk about solutions are that fixed on whether CCP or the players should be responsible. Maybe players can propose something viable, but they'd have to be allowed to talk about it first. TiDi was instituted to deal with combat lag due to overcrowding and similar counterarguments (it's player behaviour / stop blobbing / only affects a minority) were made at the time.

There's a consistent intolerant (and frankly entitled) tone from a handful of forum posters who inbetween flirting with each other and amusing themselves with feeble one-liners appear to be intent on curtailing discussion they disagree with. Given that some of you post dozens of times on every single thread on GD (and elsewhere), I'm not surprised you find the content repetitive. Although it is surprising there's time left to play the game. Most of the time I tend to agree with the sentiment, if not the tone, but if you could contain yourselves to making your point then allow the other nerds to speak there might be more activity on GD. When remarks like this get posted, you have to wonder who is more deluded - the incoherent rabble (who are hilarious) or the self appointed moderaters (who aren't) -