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[Service] Selling Spreadsheets (Google Docs)

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-02-24 22:35:24 UTC  |  Edited by: dan skirata
So you want a spreadsheet
- I will work on a one to one base with my client
- I can create a custom spreadsheet, be it for their corp or personal use.
- I will create the spreadsheet and adapt it till the client is happy with the product
- Once done a price is worked out between us based on complexity, time took to make, and the "value" of what the client will get from the spreadsheet.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is also to protect me from giving you access to the sheet and receiving no ISK what so ever. (This only applies to custom made spreadsheets. If you want one of the pre-made ones listed below, send me the ISK and a mail with a Gmail address and I'll send the spreadsheet right away)

The documents will be created using Google Docs.

Quickly Available Spreadsheets:
Wormhole Loot Calculator (With Corp Tax Section) - 100m
Screenshot

Mineral Compression Sheet - 100m
Screenshot

PI Manufacturing (including taxes) - 250m
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2

Dreadnought and Freighter Manufacturing Cost Calculator - 350m
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-02-24 23:46:32 UTC
Looking for my first customer Big smile

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-02-25 12:32:27 UTC
Still looking for first customer Big smile

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-02-25 13:35:01 UTC
Client receives ownership of the spreadsheet and I get paid in ISK.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is my first time trying this, so I hope you guys are interested in spreadsheets.


doest that condredict its self?

onces client is happy and receives ownership they pay

next you saying you will do half up front half after to stop the client geting scamed

you going to put up some collatoral for their isk that they paying you up front to do something you may or maynot do?
Kristoffon vonDrake
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
#5 - 2014-02-25 17:07:09 UTC
I think that rather than an intent to scam that contradiction you pointed out shows our advertiser's short term memory is rather shorter than the post he wrote therefore I can't recomment this service to anyone as I doubt they'd be happy with the product no matter how many iterations it goes through.
dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-02-26 12:17:08 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Client receives ownership of the spreadsheet and I get paid in ISK.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is my first time trying this, so I hope you guys are interested in spreadsheets.


doest that condredict its self?

onces client is happy and receives ownership they pay

next you saying you will do half up front half after to stop the client geting scamed

you going to put up some collatoral for their isk that they paying you up front to do something you may or maynot do?


I changed the post a little to hopefully make it more clear. The half up front, half after is to protect the customer and myself. I receive at least half payment if the customer decides to not pay me after I give them the spreadsheet.

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-02-26 12:22:12 UTC
Kristoffon vonDrake wrote:
I think that rather than an intent to scam that contradiction you pointed out shows our advertiser's short term memory is rather shorter than the post he wrote therefore I can't recomment this service to anyone as I doubt they'd be happy with the product no matter how many iterations it goes through.


Please read the rules of this thread.

"This has been extended to include Characters, EVE Time Cards (ETCs), website hosting and voice chat services. Please use the sticky thread in OOPE to advertise signature services there. Please note that scamming for out of game services is not allowed; for more information see this post by GM Lelouch".

I am not allowed to scam anyone for out of game services.

I also find it rude that because you did not understand my post you are saying that no one will enjoy my services, while you have yet to attempt to try them out.

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Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-02-26 13:31:16 UTC
dan skirata wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Client receives ownership of the spreadsheet and I get paid in ISK.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is my first time trying this, so I hope you guys are interested in spreadsheets.


doest that condredict its self?

onces client is happy and receives ownership they pay

next you saying you will do half up front half after to stop the client geting scamed

you going to put up some collatoral for their isk that they paying you up front to do something you may or maynot do?


I changed the post a little to hopefully make it more clear. The half up front, half after is to protect the customer and myself. I receive at least half payment if the customer decides to not pay me after I give them the spreadsheet.

Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-02-26 13:32:11 UTC
dan skirata wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Client receives ownership of the spreadsheet and I get paid in ISK.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is my first time trying this, so I hope you guys are interested in spreadsheets.


doest that condredict its self?

onces client is happy and receives ownership they pay

next you saying you will do half up front half after to stop the client geting scamed

you going to put up some collatoral for their isk that they paying you up front to do something you may or maynot do?


I changed the post a little to hopefully make it more clear. The half up front, half after is to protect the customer and myself. I receive at least half payment if the customer decides to not pay me after I give them the spreadsheet.



I can see how this would protect you.

But it does not protect the client at all. He gives you say 1bil up front and 1bil after. Fine. Same and he does not give u second part yiu still have some money so still sort of win. He gives you half you give him nothing you win he looses and has nothing.

So it does not protect him at all.
dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-02-26 17:37:42 UTC
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
dan skirata wrote:
Lord LazyGhost wrote:
Client receives ownership of the spreadsheet and I get paid in ISK.

As this is my first time, I will be doing half now, half after payments so that you do not feel like you will be scammed. This is my first time trying this, so I hope you guys are interested in spreadsheets.


doest that condredict its self?

onces client is happy and receives ownership they pay

next you saying you will do half up front half after to stop the client geting scamed

you going to put up some collatoral for their isk that they paying you up front to do something you may or maynot do?


I changed the post a little to hopefully make it more clear. The half up front, half after is to protect the customer and myself. I receive at least half payment if the customer decides to not pay me after I give them the spreadsheet.



I can see how this would protect you.

But it does not protect the client at all. He gives you say 1bil up front and 1bil after. Fine. Same and he does not give u second part yiu still have some money so still sort of win. He gives you half you give him nothing you win he looses and has nothing.

So it does not protect him at all.


Except that the rules for the sell forum thread explicitly say I am not allowed to scam for out of game services. Please read the rules thread at the top of the sell forum page. Not trying to be rude, but you seem to have not read the rules.

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-02-26 23:32:31 UTC
Working with my first customer on a mineral compression spreadsheet.

I have two spreadsheets now that are available very quickly, a Wormhole loot calculator and a Mineral Compression Spreadsheet.

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-02-27 14:29:30 UTC
Looking for my second customer Big smile When first customer replies to my mail, and I make sure he likes the spreadsheet I should hopefully have my first vouch.

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-02-27 14:44:46 UTC
Sad First customer went to another guy because he already had a mineral compression spreadsheet built. Still looking for my first customer now. Willing to work with the customer to get exactly what they desire

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-02-28 00:02:27 UTC
Hope to get first customer soon. I will be uploading screenshots of the Spreadsheets soon so you can get a look at what they look like

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-02-28 03:04:10 UTC
If you have any questions about pricing, or not sure about being able to trust me to go through with giving you the spreadsheet after you pay, please contact me and read through the main rules thread here in Sell Orders. It states that I am not allowed to scam for out of game services, so you have nothing to worry about.

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Brett Aubaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-28 06:38:44 UTC
dan skirata wrote:

Wormhole Loot Calculator (With Corp Tax Section) - 100m
Mineral Compression Sheet - 100m
PI Manufacturing (including taxes) - 250m
Dreadnought and Freighter Manufacturing Cost Calculator - 350m


Can I see screenshots of these? I'll buy the lot if they look good. Do you do discounts for bulk orders?
dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-02-28 13:53:41 UTC
Brett Aubaris wrote:
dan skirata wrote:

Wormhole Loot Calculator (With Corp Tax Section) - 100m
Mineral Compression Sheet - 100m
PI Manufacturing (including taxes) - 250m
Dreadnought and Freighter Manufacturing Cost Calculator - 350m


Can I see screenshots of these? I'll buy the lot if they look good. Do you do discounts for bulk orders?


Screenshots uploaded, and mail sent.

For other people reading this, yes, I do discounts for Bulk Orders. It will change depending on how many sheets are bought at once, but I am offering Brett a 20% Discount if he buys all my current spreadsheets.

I will also be completing a Trading sheet that allows you to type in any item name, switch from Jita Buy Sell to Amarr buy sell, or do a combination, like sell orders in jita and buy orders in Amarr.

It will cost 250m

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Brett Aubaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-02-28 17:49:11 UTC
Brett Aubaris wrote:
dan skirata wrote:

Wormhole Loot Calculator (With Corp Tax Section) - 100m
Mineral Compression Sheet - 100m
PI Manufacturing (including taxes) - 250m
Dreadnought and Freighter Manufacturing Cost Calculator - 350m


Can I see screenshots of these? I'll buy the lot if they look good. Do you do discounts for bulk orders?

I make spreadsheets for personal use, but have gotten lazy and was looking to purchase some, but I have big issues with yours.

1) The wormhole loot calc is missing a lot of relevant items
2) How do you use the mineral compression sheet? Do you have to input everything manually?
3) Does the mineral compression calc allow you to use more than one item at a time? If so, do you have to do the optimization manually?
4) For mineral compression to be done properly, you need more items than only 425's and 800's.
5) The mineral compression sheet doesn't have a "time to compress" and does not have a list of minerals required to build the guns. Minerals required to build and minerals yielded upon refining will not be the same. Making the user create another spreadsheet to calculate the minerals needed for gun manufacturing is a HUGE no go for me.
5) The PI sheet is a bit confusing and I don't quite understand where taxes are taken into account.
6) Does the dread and freighter calc not calculate the time to build?
7) Why dread and freighter? Not Carrier&Dread, or Freighter&Orca. Those two combinations are rather normal. This leads me to think that you don't actually use these sheets yourself, and that you arbitrarily chose Dreads and Freighters.
8) Where are prices pulled from, and how are they pulled?

No offense, but it seems that you either don't use many of these yourself, or don't actually have much experience creating spreadsheets, because a lot of these are built in a rather....cumbersome, backwards way that makes them overly difficult to use when compared to spreadsheets for sale by others. I don't believe your sheets are quite ready to be up for sale, especially at the same price as other people's spreadsheets, because yours are of much lower quality than other's I've found for sale.

All in all, I've found someone else who's spreadsheets are much more refined and easy-to-use, so I think I'll be purchasing from him. If vast improvements are made, I might consider you again but I prefer working with someone who has more experience and skill.
dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-03-03 17:20:12 UTC
Still looking for a customer Big smile

Planning to address all of the previous poster's complaints this week.

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dan skirata
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2014-03-04 22:00:28 UTC
Still looking. Trade Sheet should be up tomorrow, and I will hopefully have better screenshots available too.

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