Missions & Complexes

so i was messing around with some fits for a L4 ship, after loosing my apocalypse to jamming rats, i put some work on EFT to work on an abaddon fit but found that it wouldnt last much with cap, so i took a look to the armageddon, made two fits, one for drones and the other for missiles, but it seemed that i could maximize the damage if i used drones and missiles at the same time so i kept brainstorming and testing with EFT, i came with the following fit:

[Armageddon, armageddon torp+drone]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

100MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Mjolnir Torpedo
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Garde I x5
Hobgoblin I x5
Hammerhead I x5
Ogre I x5

let me explain, i could have come with an active version, but found out that i would have either abandon the AB for a shield booster, or take out the invul for the shield booster, which by obligation would have been an ancillary one, which means using cap boosters to compensate....the AB is mandatory for missions so i cannot take it, so i took a look to see if a passive version would work, the damage control helps to cover extra resistance in shield along with protection in case of danger.

as i have to spend rigs in shield extensions i only get 58 HP/s for the shield. i'd like to know if with that sustain i could tank the missions.

or if i would have to go with drones only and use an armor tank fit.......

did u try to fly a cap injected baddon?
Its an old fit and abit more pimped than i ever used it so take it with a bit of salt

[Abaddon, mission]

Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Energized EM Membrane II
Energized EM Membrane II
Energized Thermic Membrane II

100MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Ancillary Current Router I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Torps suck for everything. Except maybe POS bashing.

[Armageddon, armageddon Tech1 missions]
Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Large Micro Jump Drive

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Republic Fleet Bouncer x5
Warrior II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Fit for angels excpet the ammo lol, 800ish dps and all lvl 5 skills. Not much tank,mjd away if in trouble, if lock range is an issue replace cap recharger for sensor booster.

I do have to say, I thought about posting something about the Abaddon as well. He did mention deciding not to use one due to cap concerns.

I used an Abaddon when I first used Amarr battleships, while the cap on it is tight, especially for a newish player, it's not as bad as EFT or the fitting screen makes out at first glance, as you are not going to be firing your lasers with multi-freq 100% of the time. That said, I wouldn't recommend it unless you already have done a bit of level 4 missioning.

The missile launchers on the geddon are not bonused. It's best to think of them as a bit of extra DPS, not as a primary weapon system. You don't have the CPU to fit the launchers, damage mods & any shield tank worth using.

If you want a ship that uses everything & the kitchen sink - Navy Typhoon. I wouldn't recommend it unless you have great skills in projectile weapons, missiles & drones, though.

Edit : It's also worth mentioning that there is far more than paper DPS. The mid slots allow you to use tracking links which offer benefits which aren't shown in the DPS screen. Not to mention that whether you are using cruise missiles or torps, without missile rigs a large amount of that damage will not be applied to smaller/faster targets.

It's not enough. You might be able to do a few of the easier level 4's I suppose, but most will punch right through that, buffer or recharge.

Unfortunately droneboats mostly do missions better with sentries, and sentries need omnis, and the dominix has both an extra midslot, and its dual drone bonused including tracking and optimal which means it can get by with 1 omni where the geddon needs 2. ie the dominix is sufficiently flexible to shield tank, the geddon pretty much isn't.

You may be able to rat with a fit like that, but I suspect that without T2 heavies, the NPCs are going to spread badly to their orbits, and then your heavies will have to cross the orbits to get from one target to another, meaning 30 seconds at times between rats where they do 0 dps.

cruise missile mjd snipe that *****.