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[NEWS] CalNav: Sami Okuuda & 37th Officers Arrested for Court Martial

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#21 - 2014-02-21 15:26:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
I published a report on this arrest, with a focus on explaining Operation Spectre, Operation Highlander and a small highlight on the Caldari Providence Directorate (CPD).

While I'm sure quite some know what the terms stand for, some refreshing doesn't hurt. It also helps for others to get quickly up-to-date on what it is all about.

Caldari Navy arrests Wing Commander Okuuda! -> What is Operation Spectre? - What is Operation Highlander?

From what I can deduct, it seems the main reason for the arrests is perceived incompetence during the two major Operations. As people in the State are promoted based on merit/competence, it should come as no suprise that if you are incompetent for your position, you will face the consequences of your actions.

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Skilfer Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-02-21 16:04:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Skilfer Azizora
Diana Kim wrote:
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
I would hesitate to declare definitively that the Executor has perished. Simply killing him does not seem consistent with Master Kuvakei's profile. I would also hesitate to declare him irrecoverable, by whatever definition deemed suitable.

Lady Noh, Tibus Heth was Caldari Executor, Officer and Citizen.
Even if Kuvakei planned to capture him alive, he would fight sansha to the death. And if it would be impossible, he would kill himself to prevent valuable information about the State getting into dirty toaster's hands.



I completely agree Kim-haan. While I disagreed with many of the former Executor's actions and policies, he was Caldari through and through. Everything he did was what he honestly believed was the best course of action for a better State. Being as strong and resilient of man that he is, it is likely he would be caring a suicide agent at all times, in the event that capture be even a remote possibility. Despite the hate he receives, he would unquestionably give his life for the State, even in exile.

That being said, the only reason the Nation would have to capture such a strong-willed individual would be, and this is pure speculation, Kuvakei is actually dead and the Nation can no longer operate solely on the remnants of his consciousness. After Sansha reconditioning and processing, I believe the former Executor would provide the proper intellect, force of will, and strength of presence for the Nation to view him as a fitting successor to Kuvakei and lead them.
Cuci Cairi
#23 - 2014-02-21 16:13:26 UTC
Skilfer Azizora wrote:

I completely agree Kim-haan. While I disagreed with many of the former Executor's actions and policies, he was Caldari through and through. Everything he did was what he honestly believed was the best course of action for a better State. Being as strong and resilient of man that he is, it is likely he would be caring a suicide agent at all times, in the event that capture be even a remote possibility. Despite the hate he receives, he would unquestionably give his life for the State, even in exile.

That being said, the only reason the Nation would have to capture such a strong-willed individual would be, and this is pure speculation, Kuvakei is actually dead and the Nation can no longer operate solely on the remnants of his consciousness. After Sansha reconditioning and processing, I believe the former Executor would provide the proper intellect, force of will, and strength of presence for the Nation to view him as a fitting successor to Kuvakei and lead them.


He wasn't known for being the sharpest person around, it seems unlikely that he would be sought out to lead a consciousness. Though, I suppose it would be good for us if he was - it would simply weaken the Sansha further.
Skilfer Azizora
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-02-21 17:18:42 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:

I completely agree Kim-haan. While I disagreed with many of the former Executor's actions and policies, he was Caldari through and through. Everything he did was what he honestly believed was the best course of action for a better State. Being as strong and resilient of man that he is, it is likely he would be caring a suicide agent at all times, in the event that capture be even a remote possibility. Despite the hate he receives, he would unquestionably give his life for the State, even in exile.

That being said, the only reason the Nation would have to capture such a strong-willed individual would be, and this is pure speculation, Kuvakei is actually dead and the Nation can no longer operate solely on the remnants of his consciousness. After Sansha reconditioning and processing, I believe the former Executor would provide the proper intellect, force of will, and strength of presence for the Nation to view him as a fitting successor to Kuvakei and lead them.


He wasn't known for being the sharpest person around, it seems unlikely that he would be sought out to lead a consciousness. Though, I suppose it would be good for us if he was - it would simply weaken the Sansha further.


I'm not so sure about that. The former Executor did not get to where he was by being stupid or strategically inept.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-02-21 17:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
No, he got where he was because a cabal of anonymous investors purchased Caldari Constructions wholesale when its stock hit rock bottom, ousted the existing board and installed Tibus Heth as CEO without explanation, or indeed comment.

His actual activity from then on in was decidedly unsubtle and short-sighted. He wielded his popular support like a hammer in all situations rather than employing more finessed tools such as realpolitik, and continued to swing that hammer long after his support had dwindled to a dying ember of its former self.

Let's please not credit the man who sent a Provist agent into a courtroom waving a "cease and desist" order with shrewdness.

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#26 - 2014-02-21 18:06:34 UTC
If the Executor was useful to one cabal, he may well have been perceived as useful by another.

I respect both the Executor and Master Kuvakei for their drive and capacity to achieve results, and would simply reiterate that it is premature to declare either conclusively dead.

I am a bit mystified by the Executor's escape route, however. I would have made a break for Taisy, myself.
Ollie Rundle
#27 - 2014-02-22 10:38:16 UTC
Beyond the circumstantial, there's precious little hard evidence that Nation was responsible for the destruction of the fleet Heth was said to be travelling with after fleeing Haatomo. There's very little unequivocal support for the notion that Heth was even in the fleet when it was destroyed.

That said - and to satisfy my own morbid curiosity for these kinds of things - as the Wing Commander of a fleet with wide jurisdiction within (and even at times beyond) the State's borders can anyone recall if Sami Okuuda or any significant part of the 37th were committed to the search for Heth or the eventual discovery and rapid salvage of the wreckage reportedly located in Aivonen last year?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#28 - 2014-02-24 17:58:12 UTC
Given the different worlds inhabited my military commanders and those who tell them what to do from the safety of an office, the best we can hope for, and should pressure the state with any influence we have, is for a fair trial.

We should well be aware by now of the vertical command structure under the provists and the murky demise of Adm Yanala afterwards, and Spectre was a disaster of such proportions that the state is going to be hard pressed to blame so few people while not seeing beyond the scope of who they have the power to charge; that it was so bad you have a lot of blame to spread around.

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2014-02-24 19:25:14 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
Beyond the circumstantial, there's precious little hard evidence that Nation was responsible for the destruction of the fleet Heth was said to be travelling with after fleeing Haatomo. There's very little unequivocal support for the notion that Heth was even in the fleet when it was destroyed.

That said - and to satisfy my own morbid curiosity for these kinds of things - as the Wing Commander of a fleet with wide jurisdiction within (and even at times beyond) the State's borders can anyone recall if Sami Okuuda or any significant part of the 37th were committed to the search for Heth or the eventual discovery and rapid salvage of the wreckage reportedly located in Aivonen last year?


Given the Commander's strong ties to the CPD, I imagine he was kept far away from that assignment until after his loyalty had been established.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-02-24 20:20:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Stitcher wrote:
No, he got where he was because a cabal of anonymous investors purchased Caldari Constructions wholesale when its stock hit rock bottom, ousted the existing board and installed Tibus Heth as CEO without explanation, or indeed comment.

Tibus Heth was real patriot and was born as a leader. There is no explanation really needed. He was destined to rule the State and lift gallentean occupation from our homeworld!

Stitcher wrote:

Let's please not credit the man who sent a Provist agent into a courtroom waving a "cease and desist" order with shrewdness.

You, Mr. Stitcher, need further lessons, if you want to try to understand, what does it mean to be Caldari.
Feel free to visit me, when you will be ready to continue your education, and, maybe, someday you will earn yourself right to call yourself Caldari.
Not now, unfortunately.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-02-24 20:24:34 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
Skilfer Azizora wrote:

I completely agree Kim-haan. While I disagreed with many of the former Executor's actions and policies, he was Caldari through and through. Everything he did was what he honestly believed was the best course of action for a better State. Being as strong and resilient of man that he is, it is likely he would be caring a suicide agent at all times, in the event that capture be even a remote possibility. Despite the hate he receives, he would unquestionably give his life for the State, even in exile.

That being said, the only reason the Nation would have to capture such a strong-willed individual would be, and this is pure speculation, Kuvakei is actually dead and the Nation can no longer operate solely on the remnants of his consciousness. After Sansha reconditioning and processing, I believe the former Executor would provide the proper intellect, force of will, and strength of presence for the Nation to view him as a fitting successor to Kuvakei and lead them.


He wasn't known for being the sharpest person around, it seems unlikely that he would be sought out to lead a consciousness. Though, I suppose it would be good for us if he was - it would simply weaken the Sansha further.

Unfortunately, gallenteans seem to revel in insulting the most famous, merited and prominent representatives of other cultures.
And this is another reason why the Federation must be destroyed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Redpants
Pleasure Center Cybernetic Controls
#32 - 2014-02-24 20:48:45 UTC
Another high profile failure in the Caldari Navy. Is this sort of thing news?
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#33 - 2014-02-24 20:55:19 UTC
Redpants wrote:
Another high profile failure in the Caldari Navy. Is this sort of thing news?


For the single most effective fighting force in New Eden, of course it's news! It's a rare case, something the Scope are more than happy to jump on.

I suppose when your own "Federation Navy" becomes complacent with its inefficacy, and your media make a running gag of its failures, and your own people only volunteer for the dental insurance... well, courts martial might not seem like news to you. Just another day in the Fed, where those people sworn to protect it can't hold a shampoo bottle right side up, let alone run a working defense force.

Carry on though.

Katrina Oniseki

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2014-02-24 21:16:15 UTC
Redpants wrote:
Another high profile failure in the Caldari Navy. Is this sort of thing news?


Prosecutions of high ranking Caldari Navy officers? Kinda big news, yes.

I wonder if we'll deal with it in a civilised manner by making him burn to death?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#35 - 2014-02-24 21:25:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:

I wonder if we'll deal with it in a civilised manner by making him burn to death?


No we'll probably just cut funding to our Navy so low it completely neuters our ability to fight anything worse than a mildly aggressive asteroid, because who needs hard working men and women in uniform when you have drones!

Right, Fed Navy? RIGHT?!

Katrina Oniseki

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#36 - 2014-02-24 21:33:37 UTC
Redpants wrote:
Another high profile failure in the Caldari Navy. Is this sort of thing news?


I advise you to read up on Operation Highlander (battle for caldari prime) and Operation Spectre ( 4 nations enganing pirate installations)
It will give you a better view on why this is news.

Especially operation Spectre might humble you, as that was a total screwup, not only by the Caldary Navy Fleet Commander, but also of the Gallente Fleet Commander and minmatar & Amarr... they all failed, under Concord's 'guidance' (or lack of it really)

Once you looked into this, you can come back & give an informed opinion. I even made it easy for you, my signature contains a link to an expanded newsarticle concerning the arrest that explains these two operations in more detail, including references to the events themselves.

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#37 - 2014-02-24 21:40:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Gosakumori Noh
Also good reading, of course, the relatively recent Invasion of Colelie
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#38 - 2014-02-24 21:48:52 UTC
Indeed correct Miss Noh, it slipped my mind, as it wasn't directly connected to the topic at hand, but it'll surely help Mr Redpants in getting to know what happened the last year.

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Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#39 - 2014-02-24 21:49:36 UTC
This is what happens when you follow a megalomaniac crazy dictator AND suck at doing your job.

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Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-02-24 23:36:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
If he is facing court martial for operation Highlander, and for crimes in relation to the CPD why was he allowed to have command in operation Spectre, months after his failures previous? For a system that relies on merit he seems to be given an uncharacteristic amount of windfall and chances. This either makes the State seem incompetent or weak in execution which does not fit with past actions, or it supports the theory that he is a scapegoat, either now or during Spectre.

Both answers seem too simple to me however, I am sure that adding the slow grind of empire bureaucracy and the hardships that have befallen the State of late things such as this cleaning of house of an officer who was allowed to persist too long after he was worthy and cause harm more than once is surely as strong a sign of weakness that the Caldari Navy would ever exhibit.

And after the turmoil of the last few years it is impressive that the catching of breath and cleaning of house was executed as it was. A stark contrast to the long crescendo culminating in an overnight purge of the Republic, The sudden inevitable rise of the Empress or, ...whatever the hell the Federation does.

As usual the State grinds on I suppose. Hardly a bump in the road.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.