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disable corp pod popping

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Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
#1 - 2011-11-27 20:36:27 UTC
I am going to get alot of flack from scamming pirate corps out there for this.

corporation mates should not be able to destroy eachothers pods. i cant see one possible good use for this, other than screwing that person over. being able to destroy one anothers ships is all fun and games. that i can handle, thats the world of eve. but your pod is your lifeline.

is there any justifiable reason why podding is allowed within a corporation?

please with your replies, only give actual reasons... (I cant think of one (prevent the enemy from capturing you?))
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2011-11-27 20:57:33 UTC
because CONCORD is only interested in policing non-aligned capsuleers?

TBH, I really hate that the mechanics only work within a single corporation ... would make sense to extend it to alliances as well...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Verity Sovereign
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-11-27 21:23:34 UTC
I know some people use it as a fast way to get back to high sec when they can't use a jump clone and dont have any expensive implants....
Anshio Tamark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-27 22:20:10 UTC
Verity Sovereign wrote:
I know some people use it as a fast way to get back to high sec when they can't use a jump clone and dont have any expensive implants....

Self-destruct works just as fine for that.

Why anyone would pod-kill their corp-mates is beyond my imagination. Only reason I can see would be to punish them if they do something bad.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-11-28 00:19:56 UTC
Bearilian wrote:
I am going to get alot of flack from scamming pirate corps out there for this.

corporation mates should not be able to destroy eachothers pods. i cant see one possible good use for this, other than screwing that person over. being able to destroy one anothers ships is all fun and games. that i can handle, thats the world of eve. but your pod is your lifeline.

is there any justifiable reason why podding is allowed within a corporation?

please with your replies, only give actual reasons... (I cant think of one (prevent the enemy from capturing you?))


Yes. Screwing that person over.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-11-28 00:47:12 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Bearilian wrote:
I am going to get alot of flack from scamming pirate corps out there for this.

corporation mates should not be able to destroy eachothers pods. i cant see one possible good use for this, other than screwing that person over. being able to destroy one anothers ships is all fun and games. that i can handle, thats the world of eve. but your pod is your lifeline.

is there any justifiable reason why podding is allowed within a corporation?

please with your replies, only give actual reasons... (I cant think of one (prevent the enemy from capturing you?))


Yes. Screwing that person over.

honestly, if someone was moronic enought o join a corpt hat will SHOOT its own members... they should really leave the corp instead of waiting around tog et podded.
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
#7 - 2011-11-28 00:53:31 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:


Yes. Screwing that person over.


right, so you can destroy their ship already. podding takes it to a whole new level. allowing corp mates to engage in friendly combat makes sense (and as you obviously enjoy screwing people over, you have that option).

I just dont see how you can relate podding as a non policed offense, except for wars.

I'm still asking you guys. I dont beleive one of you can give me a reason for having this rule set in place.

the only people who would ever argue this point, are ones that are either spies, or greifers. now I appreciate your role in making eve exciting, but that does not justify a rule set in place with no purpose..
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2011-11-28 00:59:40 UTC
Bearilian wrote:
is there any justifiable reason why podding is allowed within a corporation?
Because there is no reason to restrict it.
Vizvayu Koga
#9 - 2011-11-28 01:20:59 UTC
I don't think it should be restricted, as long as the aggressor gets criminally flagged and a lower security status...
Misanthra
Alternative Enterprises
#10 - 2011-11-28 01:45:30 UTC
inter corp combat is for spariing purposes. Its doesn't allow concord intervention so you cna have at it. POdding covered under that protection. Don't spar with someone you don't trust.


got an ass who doesn't stop at hull and goes for pod, get him kicked. Want the gift that keeps on giving, give them a medal on the wya out. Unless something changed, that follows you for life. Call it the team killing tard medal, and it will show up on the his permanent record.


Good uses of corp podding...blob fleet lag. many have asked friends to release their pod when the lag monster was biting hard. Corpies kill your pod...and you are free to reship. Vice waiting for the enemy to do it. Lag monster hits even that timer can go screwy. Hell you can have nromal mods like mwd not even know you turned them on or off lol.


Or instant blood cloning. Hey guys, I don't want to wait 2 minutes....shoot me please.


Or the player is a team killing tard. Pay em back.

Or aoe weapons. At some point you will be stuck in a bad spot. You pod will be lost in a needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few scenario. Bomb strike, smartie, etc will be called to kill more of them than you when its too good a chance to miss.




Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2011-11-28 02:10:52 UTC
Someone steals from your corp or is found to be selling information you someone you're at war with, but they think they can get away with it, so they stay in corp.

Time to pop a pod.
Baaldor
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2011-11-28 02:33:56 UTC
Spies, thieves and useless faggots.

Good enough reasons.


Also who the hell wants to wait for the 2 minute timer when you pod jump.
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
#13 - 2011-11-28 03:47:16 UTC
Misanthra wrote:
inter corp combat is for spariing purposes. Its doesn't allow concord intervention so you cna have at it. POdding covered under that protection. Don't spar with someone you don't trust.


got an ass who doesn't stop at hull and goes for pod, get him kicked. Want the gift that keeps on giving, give them a medal on the wya out. Unless something changed, that follows you for life. Call it the team killing tard medal, and it will show up on the his permanent record.


Good uses of corp podding...blob fleet lag. many have asked friends to release their pod when the lag monster was biting hard. Corpies kill your pod...and you are free to reship. Vice waiting for the enemy to do it. Lag monster hits even that timer can go screwy. Hell you can have nromal mods like mwd not even know you turned them on or off lol.


Or instant blood cloning. Hey guys, I don't want to wait 2 minutes....shoot me please.


Or the player is a team killing tard. Pay em back.

Or aoe weapons. At some point you will be stuck in a bad spot. You pod will be lost in a needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few scenario. Bomb strike, smartie, etc will be called to kill more of them than you when its too good a chance to miss.





clearing up a lag issue, sounds like a convenient use, and so is if someone gets stuck in a spot they cannot move from. I do not believe these are reasons enough to allow it. there should be some restriction to corps poding their own. killing a spy is indeed just.

this system is abused though. all these things you are offering as a reason, is something that you could all do without. you wait your two minutes you lazy bastards.

if a corp decides they dont like you then they expell you via pod popping?

the only reason you are so attached, is cause its something your used to. i still say it should not be allowed, if you want to ask a team mate to pop you, then they should implement a request option (give player/corp/alliance kill rights).
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2011-11-28 04:01:51 UTC
Bearilian wrote:
i still say it should not be allowed
Why not?
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#15 - 2011-11-28 04:54:15 UTC
Use better screening when recruiting new members, I've never been attacked by a corp mate and don't know anyone else in game who has been podded like that either. And I've been playing a good long time now with some very shady people. In fact the only incident of a podding within corp (malicious as opposed to moving a clean clone or collecting own bounty) was when a spy was discovered in fleet. We took him out with extreme prejudice (it was a real toon with implants).Twisted

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]

Mephice
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-11-28 07:59:19 UTC
Jaketh Ivanes
Rigorous Rivals
#17 - 2011-11-28 08:43:11 UTC
Why is corp theft allowed? Why is spying allowed? Why do you have kill rights in the game?

They are tools and podding is just another tool to be used and abused. That is the spirit of EvE, trust.
Inferno Styx
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-11-28 12:43:38 UTC
because if you want to kick someone you can't until they are in a station. If they stay out of a station they are going to stay in your corp until you manage to get them in. Podding = Force someone to station
Akara Ito
Phalanx Solutions
#19 - 2011-11-28 13:26:30 UTC
Bearilian wrote:
I am going to get alot of flack from scamming pirate corps out there for this.

corporation mates should not be able to destroy eachothers pods. i cant see one possible good use for this, other than screwing that person over. being able to destroy one anothers ships is all fun and games. that i can handle, thats the world of eve. but your pod is your lifeline.

is there any justifiable reason why podding is allowed within a corporation?

please with your replies, only give actual reasons... (I cant think of one (prevent the enemy from capturing you?))


To reship immediately and possibly to screw yourself if you decide to use aoe weapons as bombs or smartbombs.
You can not prevent this anyways.

But I'd like to hear the explanation why a "bad" smartbomb will kill you but a "good" one wont.
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-28 13:47:19 UTC
Bearilian wrote:
i cant see one possible good use for this, other than screwing that person over.

Then you haven't played for very long, or you keep your head in the ground.

If you want to kick someone out of your corp, they have to be not in space to do it. If they refuse to dock or log off, you can't kick them.

The only way to force someone into a station is to pod him.

Hence, if you want to kick someone from your corp but they don't want to be kicked, they just stay undocked whenever a director is online. The only way to kick them is to pod them and then kick during the session change timer.

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