Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ideally you actually want a mechanic were focusing on a single system will be counter-productive and spreading effort across several adjoining systems will produce better results. However I have absolutely no idea what could be changed to achieve that.

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Hmmmmm ... two words: Revised Gurista.

Might want to, if possible, make it an either/or:
Can control a total of 50 drones or be assigned drones from 5 external sources whichever is first met.

But good to see you are not asleep at the wheel.

I still don't see how this is going to fix anything. To be quite honest I like the idea given to the worm. Less overall drones but more potent drones.

Its painfully obvious that this change has nothing to do with getting more people to press F1 and it is equally obvious it will not reduce strain on the server.

But the direct reduction in drone numbers tabled in the Pirate Frig update would accomplish the latter, and with limited drones on field the former would also be accomplished as people would have to be more attentive in order to maintain their limited number of drones remaining on field.

maelstroms back for king damage \o/

50 is way to big number.

I notice quite a few players stating that this is being nerfed because 'goons wanted it nerfed' and 'what are the small guys supposed to do to fight larger numbers?!?'

The answer to both of those questions is really the same. Lets assume for a second that the only reason corp/alliance/whatever A starts using a specific doctrine is because it is powerful enough to overcome corp/alliance/whatever B's vastly larger numbers. It happens that nothing in the game consisting of a equal or smaller number of ships effectively counters fleet A's new shiny doctrine. This is GREAT for the smaller group of players, they are able to compete with the larger swarm of fleet B and feel great about themselves. That continues to be true right up until group B starts using the same doctrine. Once group B is using this super awesome doctrine and they are STILL able to field vastly larger numbers the game breaks. That single doctrine becomes the only way to play the game.

The simple fact that has been reinforced by the entire history of mankind is that the larger force almost ALWAYS wins. The limited exceptions to this that I am sure you are listing off in your head at the moment are exactly that: Exceptions. Those exceptions become the stuff of legends. And every time an exception to the rule rises it is not a result of being a super elite force it is entirely attributable to a long series of unfortunate events for the larger force. Unfortunately the thing that you cannot really counter in warfare is more numbers. You can develop weapons that are 'force equalizers' but that only works until the bigger guy gets his paws on them. The idea that you can kill the enemy before he kills you with your brief advantage works SOMETIMES in the real world due to the unfortunate lack of a respawn feature. In eve it just means that once you show the larger group your spiffy new toy by exploding them with it they just reship and do it to you. Balance in this game basically means that no one doctrine or ship or whatever is vastly more powerful than another equal combination of ships.

CCP could have not nerfed drone assist and goons would use it full time and field three or four full fleets of drone assist doctrine during a single battle and we would be having a discussion in a few more months about how goons using drone assist is killing the game etc.

ld;dr Aryth is correct.

There seems to be a crusade against force multipliers, it started long ago with the Falcon nerf and has been moving steadily ever since.

this change will come out in 1.3 or not?

we can see this change is included in the sisi thread but the title of this thread still "1.x"