Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I guess CCP doesn't care how many new players don't convert their 'trial accounts' to subscriptions. They probably don't even try track the conversion rate.

I suspect being ganked by experianced players while trying to learn the game is a serious cut into those conversion rates. I personally know of 7 players who gave it up due to gankers. They were members of my college's gaming club and were testing EvE to see if it was worth playing. They allowed their trial accounts to expire and didn't bother to subscribe BECAUSE they couldn't play the game due to gankers.

I just ran a search of dev posts to see if any of the devs ever mentioned q-ships. none have. that tells me our discussion here is worthless, because the devs aren't even interested .

Honestly, your post is the first time I've ever heard the term- at least by that name. I wouldn't be surprised if the idea has existed in the past under a different name.

I'm having a hard time seeing where your idea fits into EVE. I like the concept rather a lot. But by destroyer ganking and concern with newbs, we're almost certainly dealing with highsec. Concord is already as Q as Q can get. If they gank, they will die. They know this, and choose to do it anyway. Striking them back is completely irrelevant because they have already accepted their doom.

The procurer I posted is intended to bait roaming frigates in lowsec. In highsec, gankers tend to just ignore procurers because they have too much EHP to gank easily. You seem to be asking for two things; Ambush PVP and Highsec Gank Deterrent. Gank deterrent already exists- it's called the Procurer/Skiff or one of the new tanky industrials. Ambush PVP is a great idea, but I'm confused because it doesn't seem to be what you are after.

I think the closest you could come in high-sec would be a ship capable of lying about its tank if scanned. Something that looks & scans like a Mackinaw, but tanks like a Skiff. (And mines like a Venture to keep the balance.) By itself, it would be worthless, but if you had a mining corp that deployed them on a regular basis, it would act as a deterrent. The idea being to throw an unexpected wrench in the "I need x # of cats to attack this target" equation.

I haven't mined in a year or so though, so it doesn't matter much to me. Back when there were jet-cans, something like that would have been a fun little ship to have...

Good point. I've never used a Venture. You'd probably have to cut the mining yield further then. The point of a ship like that is not to mine, but to look like it's mining.

With 15 m3 drone bandwidth for Warriors and EWAR per boat and the ability to squeeze in a LSE small gangs of Nereus can actually be quite nasty, especially as people never think that 3 or 4 Nereus on a gate are part of the same gang (whereas 4 or more 'nados or catalysts is way suspicious).

Little late to the thread so sorry if I missed, But could this effect be achieved with effectively a bastion module for transports?

2-300% rep amount
75% cap usage reduction
1-200% damage increase
High Fitting requirements(for the ship class intended for)

Or something along those lines, fit only to Blockade runners and transports. Yes it'd be very visible at scan, but one wouldn't know if it were fit or not or active/online, etc.

It'd never hold up to a combat ship. But it'd definitely surprise a few people too.

Another thought... even though it could not carry that much, it would make surprise possible, if the ship when scanned could 'show' a fake cargo. It would be so funny to look like your carrying a few billion out more, just to find out that you are deadly to most pirates.

Why not just offer these as retrofit options for existing hulls?

More like a item in cargo or a mod that can be programmed to display whatever cargo you want it to when cargo scanned. For instance you could program it to show 40b in officer mods or 5 billion in T2 hulls or whatever, only when cargo scanned. This is just to keep up the deception that it is a real freighter.

I believe this is a core concept, given simplest explanation.
I would even expand this, to allow a rig slot for each slot type being expanded, so that you could opt for incredible defensive ability instead of just shooting above expectations.

That said, you are expanding rigs into the territory previously reserved for subsystems on T3's.
I have no idea how difficult this would be to code, suggesting it might be more practical for "canned" versions rather than this.