EVE General Discussion

This.



There are over 7000 systems in Eve. Those systems have stations with access to a Regional Market.



This is already a thing. People, like the OP, don't use it

Seriously stop with the nonsense. If you don't have a clue then don't post because it looks ridiculous.

Its not a player created problem its a CCP created problem. The removal of the superhighways (A CCP action) created the current JIta. The developers are directly responsible for the system in which players operate. If there is a flaw in the system than that flaw will cause players to behave in a certain way. If the flaw is alleviated then the players (or users) will behave in another way.

Do you have any education or experience in software development? If not then you're not qualified to decide if the system breakdown is a result of user or developer. I do and I can tell you that 100% the developer is in control of the actions of the users in respect of how the software influences the user to behave.

If I create a spreadsheet application, and I put the exit command on the second to last rather than the last item list on the file menu and I forget to include a save as dialog then I don't get to say "oh well, the users should look in the file menu and make sure they're not clicking on the word "exit" accidentally. No, I created my system in such as way that I caused user to lose data even if they could avoid that loss by double checking the file menu options.

My job is to fix MY logical error, not blame my customers for being less than observant.

There is this new invention, I believe they call it "online shopping". I know, I know, its a new fad, and probably wont catch on, but i hear it lets you buy what you want remotely, a bit like the skills in eave does, then it "couriers" the items to your door. I dunno, maybe it would never work

Because they're stupid.

Also, Ziona, why did you chicken out on biomassing?

one could argue that, even if jita became jita because of players, players made jita the main hub because of the game mechanic + map, both wich were createed by CCP, so even if CCP didn't made jita per say, they made the game mechanics that led to jita being a de facto trade hub.

Ganking at Jita gate while it's closed is pretty broken in it's current state. I'm not going to read 14 pages so I apologize if I'm a broken record at this point.

If the Jita gate is that busy, CONCORD should logically be increasing their support at the gate. That means the gates should have like 20 sentry guns and a legion of CONCORD ships that do not leave.

Once again we have a thread filled with people defending a game mechanic because it's about not wanting to be killed. I don't think I have ever seen a thread where someone says, "maybe X Y Z should be safer" and anyone actually agrees. It's not because those ideas aren't sound, it's because most of you forum regulars think EVE Online means endless destruction with no regulation. It doesn't, especially not in high-sec.

The game is about risk vs reward. If I warp to a gate in a slow aligning ship, I should be able to expect to jump through that gate. There is no indication beforehand stating I cannot. If I cannot jump through that gate, and cannot determine such beforehand, it is thus impossible to not get potentially stuck on a gate unless I decide to avoid Jita during peak hours altogether; unreasonable beyond all measure.

Once at the gate I can be targetted and ganked before I have a chance to align out, even if I align immediately. I don't think most ganks happen that fast, but the fact is they can.

When the players are not given the tools to balance risk vs reward, that is a problem. In it's current state, the Jita gate block needs one of two changes:
a) When initiating warp-->jump on the gate, it guarantees your position in jumping through once you arrive. If it cannot guarantee, it warns you of such, thus allowing you to disengage warp
b) Queuing at gates. Once you hit jump, you enter a queue where you're invulnerable and cannot do anything with your ship.

I really, really don't understand how you people argue against things like this. Seems everyone just wants free kills and to watch ships blow up at all costs.

It's called game balance, people. It makes the blowing up that much better when it does happen.

No.

Any claim that going to any other systems other than Jita is unreasonable is absolute horseshit and anyone claiming such is just absolutely naive and lazy. I can not make it any simpler than that.



I really, really don't understand why everything in HighSec should be easy mode - That people request invulnerability. It's called game balance people. It makes not getting blown up that much better when it doesn't happen.

People keep saying that, but it really isn't.

The game in itself is just a sandbox, meaning 'a bunch of toys that can be used in a bunch of ways'.

It's the HUMAN BEINGS playing in the sandbox that CREATE risk vs. reward. That's the beauty of EVE! CCP isn't in the business of creating risk vs. reward but ENABLING THE PLAYERS to create risk vs. reward.

IF Jita gates were a significant issue, you'd get risk vs. reward in action. People would value the risk of getting in vs. the reward of being in. Some of the people would value the risk too high, so the rewards would very probably adjust too: less people, so higher sell prices and lower buy prices.

BUT it's so darn easy to get into Jita without dying that unfortunately risk vs reward does not really come into play here. Too bad.

I'm pretty sure aggressing with a noobship will bring enough concord to protect everyone. Concord still spawns if sentry guns instagib your right?



Jita is well known to be a risky place. People go to Jita because of the rewards offered in doing so. Stuff sells faster, goods can be bought cheaper. Are you telling me the people getting ganked are going to Jita for some other purpose? Sounds like Risk vs Reward to me.



I'm actually very much in favor of giving the RoF penalty back to destroyers to reduce slightly the cheapness of ganking. I just think that if you get stuck entering Jita with a gank-worthy cargo, you had better be fast enough to gtfo. If not, then its on you. If you get stuck going to Jita of all places during a wardec... well, no amount of crying about traffic can fix stupid.

Invulnerability is an extraordinarily powerful mechanic and should not be doled out lightly. The reasons here are not compelling enough to warrant such a change.