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Miners, Bumpers and The Code(A open letter to james314)

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Freedom For Everyone
Blackstone and Fairfield Transuniversal
Sentinels of Sukanan Alliance
#1 - 2014-02-24 05:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Freedom For Everyone
Miners are people, not some to be put down. Even in your own code it says we are the bottom of the barrel, but so are to is the gankers hiding behind some code. The code is nothing more protection racket, just admit and move on. Or are you afraid that once the code is no longer a code, you lose power. You are afraid people will stayed up and say you are WRONG. We did not start the war, but we will finish it. NO more permit. we did not need them before and we do not need them now. Let me be the first to stayed up to you and say No to the Code. I will left you with some words:

For the first link, the chain is forged,
The first speech censored,
The first thought forbidden,
The first Freedom denied,
Chains us all irrevocably.

It serve as a warning, The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged.

Have a good night,

Freedom
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2014-02-24 05:45:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
You know this is exactly the type of response it is designed to draw out?

Best approach if you want to win is just offer a gf in local and then go about your own play (and learn to fit your ships for some tank so they skip you after scanning, put them on watch list and keep and eye on local, dock up when a threat enters system just like other areas of space, etc.)

Idle threats won't work though and that's all this is. If there was real intent no warning would be needed, you would just go implement.

PS. A lot of people say the Code is a protection racket. It's not. It's more a non-aggression pact. They won't kill you if you pay and follow the Code, but they won't protect you from anyone else either.
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#3 - 2014-02-24 07:53:28 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
You know this is exactly the type of response it is designed to draw out?

Best approach if you want to win is just offer a gf in local and then go about your own play (and learn to fit your ships for some tank so they skip you after scanning, put them on watch list and keep and eye on local, dock up when a threat enters system just like other areas of space, etc.)

Idle threats won't work though and that's all this is. If there was real intent no warning would be needed, you would just go implement.

PS. A lot of people say the Code is a protection racket. It's not. It's more a non-aggression pact. They won't kill you if you pay and follow the Code, but they won't protect you from anyone else either.

Well yes it is a protection racket.... You pay for protection against their gankers.

I discourage running with scissors.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#4 - 2014-02-24 08:04:42 UTC
Freedom For Everyone wrote:
Miners are people


You've already made a mistake there.

The rest of your reasoning built on that false presumption may of course be internally coherent, but still resting on a broken presumption, making it useless.
Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#5 - 2014-02-24 08:07:08 UTC
You aint the first to stand up to them, and you will not be the last.
Dreadchain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-24 08:28:42 UTC
Freedom For Everyone wrote:
Miners are people


My experiences have indicated quite the contrary - most of them are NOT people.

www.minerbumping.com
Rumtin
Imperium Technologies
Sigma Grindset
#7 - 2014-02-24 08:28:47 UTC
Freedom For Everyone wrote:


For the first link, the chain is forged,
The first speech censored,
The first thought forbidden,
The first Freedom denied,
Chains us all irrevocably.

It serve as a warning, The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged.



Please stop quoting Star Trek, it doesn't work in EvE. Just pay your fine and STFU.
Prince Sanguine
#8 - 2014-02-24 08:32:22 UTC
How will you stop it If you are afk with light drones? Miners are trash, but they are necessary for the master class (pvpers) to continue production of our disposable ships. Just accept that you are all targets and move on.

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
290Switchblade
WE-Tech Corporation
#9 - 2014-02-24 08:33:21 UTC
OP, can you show me on the retriever where the New Order touched you?

Seriously, though, we welcome all opposition in any form it may take. Anything that is not mindlessly f1ing asteroids for hours on end is an improvement. Fight back, resist, join us, do SOMETHING.

Just know that if you do resist, you'll lose. Just join us; it's simpler.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#10 - 2014-02-24 08:37:25 UTC
How do you spell Sandbox?
Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#11 - 2014-02-24 08:39:17 UTC
Wow, this thread is absolutely lovely!
I especially enjoyed that little poem that you stole.

Unfortunately, you seem to have a rather incorrect view and assumption about what the New Order is and what it's goals are, and I sense this thread is simply a backlash against you having been killed recently and getting rather grumpy.

Also, use your main ;^)

Have a nice day~

i think i am pretty kawaii =333
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2014-02-24 08:43:05 UTC
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:
How do you spell Sandbox?


If there were Darwin Awards for internet forum posts, I think I would nominate this one....Big smile

Thanks for the laugh.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#13 - 2014-02-24 08:51:04 UTC
Hello, Op!

Is your NPC corp rising up against us?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-24 08:59:16 UTC
Op just needs to learn the game.

Mine ore.
Build gank ships.
And laugh as the ISK roles in.

Pog mo thoin

alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
#15 - 2014-02-24 09:02:16 UTC
I thought ganking was the cure for mining tedium; injecting much needed excitement into an activity less interesting than watching paint dry.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2014-02-24 09:10:51 UTC
alexi turov wrote:
I thought ganking was the cure for mining tedium; injecting much needed excitement into an activity less interesting than watching paint dry.


I don't know about that.

Wet paint has an off putting smell so it's not healthy to cook dinner or feed the kids, or go to the toilet. You can't duck out for a bit and watch paint dry at the same time.

Mining seems to offer so many more exciting options.
Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#17 - 2014-02-24 09:33:07 UTC
Buy skiff. Tank it out. Laugh as they try to burn through 51k EHP

I discourage running with scissors.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#18 - 2014-02-24 10:25:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Alastair Ormand wrote:
Buy skiff or Procuror. Tank it out. Laugh as they try to burn through 51k EHP everybody around you not in a tanked Procuror or Skiff burns and you loot the miners wrecks, at the cost of suspect status, and the gankers wrecks for profit


FTFY

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Brusanan
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#19 - 2014-02-24 10:35:29 UTC
Freedom For Everyone wrote:
Miners are people...

Miners are food, and they sit at the very bottom of the food chain.

While mining is necessary to keep the economy going, no individual miner is of any importance to the game at all. If one quits Eve, two more will take his place. Miners need to understand this and accept their insignificance, so they can fall in line and do as they are told by their authorities (and pay their mining permit fees!).
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-02-24 10:41:18 UTC
No alts were harmed in the search for relevance
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