EVE General Discussion

If you can not have fun in this game with a new day old account you are doing it wrong.

Play the game with the skill points you have, not with the skill set you plan for the long run. If you are always waiting for the next skill train to finish before you can go do what you want, you will never enjoy your time spent in EVE.

The best thing to do, is spend some time developing a good skill plan and then completely forget about it until it is finished. Just play the game.

(If you can not do this, it is a good hint that EVE is not the game for you)

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yah ignore the idiots here on the forums as said before,

First off throw everything you know about modern mmos out the airlock. Eve is its own monster with very few copy cats of it out there. Matter of fact I can list the number of copy cats of eve on one finger atm and its ground based.

Read Tippia's post again. Commit to heart and mindset.

Next a few rules I fly by.

1 Dont fly what you cant afford to lose.

If you like diablo another blizzard game then treat flying in space as hardcore mode. Dont want to lose your lvl 80 full epiced out character becuase of some silly mistake and lose all that progress. Though in eve you wont be starting back at square one you'd at least be starting back nekkid.

2 If you can't protect it you dont deserve it.

There are alot of people in eve, some will be jealous of what you have, if you do not properly seek steps to proactively defend yourself or any property you have they will take it away. But do remember there will come a time that even the best preperations will not be enough. Which is why its important to have the backup plan always ready to go.

3 Have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

In eve trust is the most valuable commodity not becuase of its value, but of its scarcity. If you plan on killing eveyrone you meet including your so called corp mates. So when the day they decide you are not worth it anymore, at least you would get the last laugh in watching them burn with you in the barn they tried to set fire with you in it.

4 If its too good to be true it is.

This is an interation on 3 with persons removed. Scamming is allowed in this game so do take any and every offer made to you with a grain of salt. Becuase the only thing the GM is going to tell you life's tough, get tougher.

5 Enjoy losing, makes victory that much sweeter.

Most important aspect in eve is not to get angry when you dont come out on top. Take it as an oppertunity to learn from the mistake that landed you there in the first place and what to do about it. You'll eventually come to the point where you are not making as many mistakes and victory is entirely reachable every time. If you cannot grasp this, then victory will be seemingly hopelessly out of reach.

BTW the most intersting of combat in eve takes place not in space.
Poltiics, Moral, Propaganda, and Wallet warfare is infinitely more intersting in this game than any other mmo. I mean who else starts a war over a crashed ingame funeral that lasted a good 6 real life years and burned most of new eden in the process and to this day fragments are still burning from? And all of these really dont involve game mechanics. failure in leadership does cause people not wanting to fight.

Also yeah mining is very boring but its a good self punishment time when you screw up really bad. at least you get isk when you do this.

I don't really see the "relaxing," quality of repeatedly filling my ship with rock bits and slogging it down to the station for processing (for what I understand is a pittance of a return), but i'll have to take you guys at your word on that. Sufficed to say, I don't think i'll ever train a mining skill. I am; however, taking another look at those astrometry(i'm sure i buggered that) skills. Exploring seems like a cool way to get around and see the universe while I train up better ships as there are frigates with a scanning bonus.

All TheGoodies - Welcome to Eve, first of all. Glad to have you here.

As I'm sure you've noticed by now, the Eve crowd is rather bigoted. Yeah, I know, its a strong word, but what else do you call a group of gamers with a smug sense of superiority because they fly internet space ships instead of casting internet magic spells. Eve players also showed their true colors when CCP tried to work on World of Darkness - for every outcry over the fact that company resources were developing another game with subscription money, there were three times as many crying over the fact that "vampires = twilight". These are also the same subset of players who still think its cool to call everyone "gays and faggots".

If you can get over the fact that the easiest way to fit in here is to put your WoW background into the closet and never mention the game again, you'll find there is a lot to enjoy. Eve players are very creative (the game has far more tools for player-driven gameplay than conventional MMO's like WoW) and eve players are also cut-throat compeitive. Your skills will be challenged here. Danger and misinformation lie around every corner, so good advice and people you can trust are worth their weight in gold.

I won't succumb to WoW bashing, it has its appeal to some, but just be aware that this game has far less safeties built into its core gameplay, so every action and decision has its consequences. Losing ships will hurt, and you'll lose a lot of them. Resist the temptation to fit up expensive gear on your ships - the best pilots can fly and defeat other ships while spending far less isk. Do not look at stats and throw on "what is best", fit what you can afford to fit 10 at a time of, so that losses will just be a fun learning experience. Resist the temptation to ship up in size - frigates can go anywhere in the game and access an immense amount of content and are critical in almost every PvP engagement.

Also, if you really must make comparisons here are a few (I'll be trolled for this but whatever. You asked.) - Amarr ships mostly resemble the "warriors" of WoW. They excel at tanking, and deal heavy damage. They are not fast though, and they don't have a bunch of fancy tricks. Classic tank and spank. These are just generalized attributes though, all races of ships can tank, and cause damage, etc. Minmatar ships tend to be fragile but fast, and specialize in hit-and-run guerilla tactics. Caldari have some fantastic ECM ships - eve's version of crowd control. (To put in perspective, a Falcon is a famous ship whose WoW equivalent would be a multi-polymorph casting mage with no cooldowns that could cloak like a thief. Super annoying in PvP, much complained about.) While all races have ships that use drones, the Gallente ships often receive bonuses to them, drones being the closest thing to "pets" in eve. Really though, they're just a ranged weapon that can be targeted and destroyed. Character class comparisons really are impossible though, because the various ships within each race also fit certain roles (damage, healing, crowd control, bait, intel, gang buffs). Add size differences on top and you've really got a complicated system.

Put your flamesuit on now, you'll need a tough skin to get through these first few months. Do so without having your spirit broken, and you'll find an infinitely complex and rewarding experience beyond.

OH - and ignore the bittervets who say the game is ruined. Think for yourself, as long as you're having fun, stick around.

Gimme! But it needs to have nice impact graphics!

I don't know what a Threat Meter is but there is a good way to know if you are about to get Thwomped.

If all the Red Boxes with Skulls/Stars on the Overview start to Flash Yellow...

You just go ahead and keep the cursor over the Broadcast for Reps button.

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