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Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#341 - 2014-02-22 04:05:59 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Istyn wrote:

Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.


Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec.
Now let's check PBLRD and you see an ongoing, uninterrupted war since I started my Merc contract with Marmite 6 weeks ago.
If these JFs were in Northern Associates, you'd have 1/6 chance to just watch them float away.
Considering the value of the kills, the probability increase of them and the war costs, I know there is exactly one Goon in this thread who understands why am I happy.


On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion.


Translation: "Yout DON'T talk back to -A- Gevlon, pet!"
Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#342 - 2014-02-22 04:16:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Samahiel Sotken
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

Let's open the Marmite war history page and look up Northern Associates, which is another renter alliance like PBLRD. There was a war with them between 2013/09/27 and 2014/02/04 Then there is an ongoing war from 2014/02/13. What is between them? A week when you couldn't shoot Northern Associates in highsec.


Let's drill down into this.

Northern Associates Losses By Month:
08-13 285.54b
09-13 329.03b
10-13 258.61b
11-13 268.84b
12-13 203.70b
01-14 236.31b
02-14 232.09b

According to this, their two highest months of losses happened BEFORE the initial war dec. And while the month of February appears lower than average, it's only three quarters over. If you extrapolate from the current trend it should end somewhere around 309.45b in damages. Which would make it, despite the loss of a weeks worth of war decs, the second most costly month in the period, second only to the month preceding the war dec.

The statistics are clear. If you want your corps loss rates to decrease, have goblin pay someone to attack you.

edit: source https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99000163/history/
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#343 - 2014-02-22 04:58:07 UTC
Clearly the greatest scam of EVE Online is Marmite getting money from Gevlon & delivering nothing. Good work Marmites.

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Powers Sa
#344 - 2014-02-22 06:00:24 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

On a different note: Marmite collective, using the permadec I pay just held a class in Nonni to renters that they should consider finding another landlord. However - considering their corp name - they should be accepted to GSF proper, due to perfect fit


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Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.

For real. I've posted this before, but marmite can't take credit for anything the Freight Club guys do. They have been funding their own wardecs off of dead JFs for the longest time.

Freight Club is just about the only highsec crew that I actually respect next to RVB.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#345 - 2014-02-22 06:13:23 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

On a different note: Marmite collective, using the permadec I pay just held a class in Nonni to renters that they should consider finding another landlord. However - considering their corp name - they should be accepted to GSF proper, due to perfect fit


:\

Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.


In case you missed it:

Gevlon wrote:

So yes, I can take ALL the credit.

...

I am solely responsible for turning these players against CFC and focusing their damage on CFC.

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Helfeln Meathead
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#346 - 2014-02-22 06:54:30 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

On a different note: did you people notice that in the thread "RvB is a Goon scam" 90% of the posts are coming from Goons (and a certain Spacemonkey). This isn't the best way to eliminate the suspicion.


Ummm... did you just forget which thread you were posting in?
Northern Misfit
Far Mt Logistics
#347 - 2014-02-22 06:58:30 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Whoop

Me again.

I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures.

Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs.

http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png


Finally pie chart!

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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#348 - 2014-02-22 07:42:58 UTC
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Samahiel Sotken wrote:

Wait, Gevlon's autism support group has 366 members? Jesus, they're like five times the size of MINILUV, and we still do ten times the damage.

This is an important point Goblin forgets. On paper we have tens of thousands of pilots, but only about 70 of them care about Highsec. So he might think he's leading the 300 against Xerxes horde, but he's really getting beat down by a few dozen guys on vacation from the real wars.


Yep, or if you compare them to SniggWaffe who are still larger than MiniLuv (as far as I know) yet half the size roughly than this supposed "Goon Killing alliance" you have:

JANUARY

Darwins Lemmings - 366 members across 36 corporations
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Darwins_Lemmings
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9713

Kills - 802
ISK equivalent in kills - 68.44 Billion

Losses -269
ISK equivalent in losses - 11.24 Billion

Efficiency - 85.89%


SniggWaffe - 230 members in SniggWaffe, 2 members in our executor corp. (35 in a Russian corp we did a test period with)*
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/WAFFLES./corporations
http://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=9296


Kills - 4,560
ISK equivalent in kills - 1.9 Trillion

Losses - 1,739
ISK equivalent in losses - 67.75 Billion

Efficiency - 96.65%

*Black Mesa Inc were a part of Waffles during January and had the following statistics:

Kills - 27
ISK in kills - 1.31 Billion

Losses - 11
ISK in losses - 0.1 Billion

Which accounts for a minuscule amount of the damages in both kills and losses for the month. They left Waffles having not garnered any kills in February.

FEBRUARY

Darwins Lemmings

Kills - 2,141
ISK equivalent in kills - 104.1 Billion

Losses - 642
ISK equivalent in losses - 25.92 Billion

Efficiency - 80.07%


SniggWaffe

Kills - 4,018
ISK equivalent - 175.58 Billion

Losses - 1,328
ISK equivalent in losses - 50.10 Billion

Efficiency - 77.80%


SniggWaffe, a corp with 200 fewer pilots, can deal over twice as many kills at minimum (February saw our return to lowsec after the south east finished up) than Gevlon's attempt at an alliance to deal damage to Goons. Waffles also finance themselves individually and don't have an ISK reserve that is close to what Gevlon claims to be.

Basically a training corp for a "Goon pet" in Pandemic Legion can do more than Gevlon's entire alliance with Marmite Collective doing all the heavy work. It's quite sad really, and these numbers are hard to lie about.



Your null sec though right? you go hunting in low sec, fight null sec scraps and have the bat phone to PL supers that makes squashing any low sec gang with its tail up a trivial task. I dont follow how yr stats are relevant. Not trying to diss you btw, I am new to eve. I do think though yr comparing apples to oranges.

Will gank for food
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#349 - 2014-02-22 07:46:58 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Did you know that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?


No I did not know that. Is there anything else I should know about Poitot?


Isn't that the system that is known for being on an in-game postcard?

Speaking of which, after Gevlon quits Eve, we should all get a "blogpost by Gevlon" in-game crumpled up piece of paper for Christmas that says something like "this paper contains lots of gibberish and graphs, New Eden's brightest minds are hard at work trying to figure out what it means. What will this nasty surprise be...?"

You don't like Gevlon do you? :P I wouldn't take being called a moron personnally btw, hes called me it at least twice since I've known him and he still helped me learn to heal on my shammy. Shocked

Will gank for food
enterprisePSI
#350 - 2014-02-22 07:47:06 UTC
First. Straight

The tears of the many, outweigh the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi©
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#351 - 2014-02-22 07:54:32 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Oblivion King wrote:
there's more GOONs and CFC in this thread than any other, 17 pages in 2 days? all from Goons? i'm impressed.

it should be a complete non-shocker that an alliance founded on a forum should find forum posting in their regular schedule
Oblivion King wrote:
RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance.

the literal opposite of this is true, RvB have been smacking marmite around all over the place, and fleets where marmite / lemmings run away from the POCOs they spend hours reinforcing have been getting hit pretty hard by RvB as well

plenty of ~~content~~ even though im loathe to encourage you using the latest buzzword in an incorrect context



Dude I enjoy yr posting, its brilliant. Why is it the same few goons posting though? why isnt this buried with 100s of folk laughing "at the madman". Why is it directors and important people only? You know someone who was FAR more paranoid then I and who saw conspiracy theories in EVERYTHING might, just might, think that you goonies were taking the gevlon threat so seriously your carefully handling it. The boys have been told to stay away and its been left to the professionals. The professional. just a thought...


Btw have I told you how I admire your posting? you made me laugh loads! brilliant! Do you have a blog I can follow? D

Will gank for food
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#352 - 2014-02-22 07:58:47 UTC
Northern Misfit wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Whoop

Me again.

I have recently learned, that if you want to make a point, that you need a graph. It's not enough for me to just say "But we saved every POCO you are the worst at doing your job", I need to show it in pictures.

Hence I made a pie chart of Jan/Feb 2014 charting our POCO save OPs.

http://i.imgur.com/D7Szn3F.png


Finally pie chart!


Yey! pie! Now wheres my mayo?

Will gank for food
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#353 - 2014-02-22 08:57:25 UTC
Oblivion King wrote:
Gevlon have you considered allying with other entities to take down RvB their time is over anyway
I hope this war rages forever.

RvB are simply pets because instead of contesting for most POCOs you took the easy way out (failing to provide content for your members) and struck a deal with goons avoiding some nice pew and what could have been a thorn in the back of a large alliance.


But the POCOs *are* providing content!

1: What do you think RvB is doing with the isk coming in from our little POCO empire? Ship replacements! This serves to generate further R vs B content. (and once again, I would like to point out that Gevlon's statement "A pet alliance without SRP, without good killboard, without ratting space?" is false on *all* points).

2: What the heck do you think this hullabaloo is but content?!?! Ganks, baits, counterganks, huge defence fleets, hunting parties... and *astounding* killmails. We just got an artilery fit 2.5 billion abbadon.

Of course, we didn't expect *Gevlon* to be the instigator of this content but hey, here we are.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#354 - 2014-02-22 09:08:21 UTC
Tarojan wrote:


Why is it directors and important people only?


Because everyone is important in GSF. If you mean space-important in general, I'm not space-important, and I'm the one who's pressing Marmite on taking advantage of the mentally ill.
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#355 - 2014-02-22 09:49:18 UTC
Wait, I'm important?! WOOHOO!!!

... I wonder how this happened? Hmmm... It must be when I almost defeated the goons by making Mynnna choke on a sandwich. Funny how with a single joke, I almost made more damage than a certain someone ever will ;)

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#356 - 2014-02-22 10:35:47 UTC
Xaerael Endiel wrote:
Tarojan wrote:


Why is it directors and important people only?


Because everyone is important in GSF. If you mean space-important in general, I'm not space-important, and I'm the one who's pressing Marmite on taking advantage of the mentally ill.



Oh sorry. was reading Grath on mitanni.com. Hes really cool. Anyway was really Khan i was addressing there cos he makes me laugh Irl. Its rare that happens. Glad you think your important though :)

Will gank for food
Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#357 - 2014-02-22 10:39:58 UTC
Grath Callidus Marus • 2 days ago
Eh, you still have to nut up and use them. Notice the Russians haven't ever fielded a slowcat doctrine, though they've tried chimeras they've always produced low numbers, and this is a coalition that can produce close to 1000 men when called on.

Its not often enough to field the ships, its the balls to put them out there and the knowledge of how to use them that matters, and losing them in the learning process is often enough to turn groups away from trying.



see its s*** like this. You know he knows what hes talking about. I could learn more about eve with one afternoon buying him drinks in a bar then a month here talking smack with you guys. no offense intended.

Will gank for food
Helfeln Meathead
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#358 - 2014-02-22 10:53:48 UTC
Not really focussing on the War here are we
http://imgur.com/IjTSZfE

Had to scroll to find the first bee kills.
http://imgur.com/4uMcRoQ
Anela Cistine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#359 - 2014-02-22 11:07:05 UTC
This whole premise is ridiculous. Newbies are the best part of EVE. If we had 8000 newbies on our team we wouldn't leave them rotting in highsec.
Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#360 - 2014-02-22 11:07:50 UTC
We really need to talk about the 2.5b lemmings Abbadon that RvB killed last night.

Sifting through the kills of the pilot, it would seem that they never actually got a kill with that ship. And no reimbursement either, ouch. I'd hate to be in such a bad alliance that doesn't care about my losses.