Crime & Punishment

Guys, you are not helping Mynnna/Mangala here, get your **** together!

Look, you supposed to build a "wall of opinions". All of you telling the same thing, preferably with the same phrases. This causes the random reader to say "OP said X supported by a bunch of numbers and points I couldn't be bothered to read, and everyone else said Y, so Y must be true". It won't work if you all saying conflicting things! I could count at least 5 different damage control stories killing each other:

• RvB is having a mutually good treaty with Goons limited only to POCOs. Burn Jita was a random coincidence.
• RvB is supporting Goons because Gevlon is bad at diplomacy and made RvB mad. Burn Jita was a random coincidence.
• It doesn't matter if RvB is a Goon pet as long as the RvB line members are having fun
• The data Gevlon provided is inconclusive because it doesn't contain nullsec wars where RvB ganked fleets killed Goons
• RvB is indeed a Goon pet now, but there isn't any evidence that it was originally created by Goons

The funny thing is, none of this is contradicting. What kind of argument is that? Are you sabotaging yourself now? Is there more than one of you? Which one am I speaking to now?

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We don't have to help Mynnna he's already richer and better at this game than you.

Sorry I'm not being a perfect-actor in your fantasy of how this thread would go, but since you've claimed there's no functional difference between people and NPCs we're back to pointing and laughing at you for not understanding how people work. Keep up, chap!

This is where you were being hopelessly naive. The RvBee pact was already announced on the forums. You failed to consider this in your ~~grand scheme~~ because you thought you wouldn't have timers to fight over, it would be small gang fighting and lots of re-enforced POCOs losing us money. What you should have done, is realised RvBee existed and try a diplomatic approach. But of course, in your mind attacking first and then calling everyone pets was a better idea. How's that working?
You built your whole plan on several flawed premises, which is why you're in the situation today where you're tilting at new windmills and we're still printing ISK from our POCOs.

You will note I literally posted that I want you to continue. I'm not trying to stop you (there's nothing to stop, you don't register as a threat), I'm pointing and laughing that you even tried.

Everyone is pointing and laughing.

Yes, losses in Jita. As I said: congratulations on throwing your money at people and having them camp Jita.

The losses are a rounding error, and we still have all our POCOs.

You quite literally have a Marmite guy in this thread telling you he thinks your plan is nonsense and that he's just in it for the free wardec. What else proof do you need that you're paying for someone else's free wardec and nothing else?

Again, people don't act the way they do in your fantasies, Gevlon. Whatever hurf blurf you think we need to do is completely unnecessary, because you simply aren't a threat to us.

The best thing here is the moment he stops funding the wardec he's been beaten by Mynnna - again.

Just saw this on Gevlon's blog:





Actually roigon has a good idea, I've been on a few RvB Ganked roams and they also kill targets of chance - not unlike the targets that Lemmings are killing in high-sec.

Eg I'm sure this guy: http://rvbganked.co.uk/kills/index.php/kill_detail/5782/ didn't want to be killed by the RvB Ganked roam.

Offer to pay the roams a percentage of kill values in prizes to be handed out to the fleet.

To be honest this is a no-lose situation for you. If RvB accept the offer, then you're effectively paying them to shoot Goons in null-sec - exactly the same as you're paying Marmite and Lemmings to shoot Goons in high-sec. Eg you've found somebody that will go disrupt Goon activity in their home systems. If RvB don't accept the offer, then this is more evidence that they're actually Goon Pets.

Stop posting.

Had you have gone to RvB before RvBee and put an offer on the table - then the outcome is unknown. We can, however, be entirely sure that ignoring their existence after-the-fact, and then running about screaming that they must be goon alts if there's a treaty is the exact, literal, worst possible thing you could have done. You've galvanised people who probably didn't even care who you were, into hating you and having fun stopping you and making you rant and rave some more.
'Purple fleets' might have ended up being a chore, if they weren't a comedy meeting of people pointing and laughing at the mad man. You've ruined making them form up as an objective now, since this is fun unto itself.


You're not enabling it (since they were doing this before you even had 10mil ISK to your name) you've just decided to pick up the bill for it.
It's roughly akin to someone donating money to a restuarant, then telling all their friends they're a great chef. One does not equal another.

In fact, you have explicitly stated that you would at no point actually help run or organise anything, which is tantamount to openly admitting you lack the ability to be the enabler.

I know you really, really hope that people will believe that you are causing the losses, but you aren't, and no one does. I don't even think you do, either. You're just so locked into this now you can't back down, even if you have to look ever more ridiculous with each claim.

It's actually beautiful, when you think of it. We know you can't back out. You know you can't/won't back out. So, by hardly lifting a finger, we've gotten ourselves into a position where you're just throwing all your money away for literally no reason.

Our win condition is you keep throwing your money away and blog about it, fyi.

(Oh and keep all our POCOs, but then that's a self evident truth anyway).