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The greatest scam of EVE online

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Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#241 - 2014-02-21 15:33:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Danalee
You are a troll because you skip over everything that doesn't fit your narrative and jump on the small details with a fervor unknown to rational people.

At times I thought you were actually trying to have an argument, now it's clear you are trying your hardest to quell out every form thereof.

I'm right and it hurts you lot so hard that sooner or later you'll pop a vein before admitting there is a middle ground.

Mangala, would you please set this straight with us?
Are these your words or not?
Mangala Solaris wrote:

Dear fellow RvB-ers. We have lot of fun in both Red versus Blue and purple wars.

But we unfortunately live in a *metagame* universe, where shooting the wrong Falcon can literally break coalitions. In a universe where spies, space-politicians, propagandist do their "serious" stuff, instead of just undocking and having fun.

We cannot allow even the appearance of being political, because we cannot allow a newbie think that if he joins us, he'll be banned from half of Nullsec by declared to be the spy of the other half. No matter how accurately we try to balance our actions, by luck or by others doing *metagame* we can end up fighting a war for someone else.

So, from now on, we will not initiate wars. We just fight Red versus Blue and of course we fight anyone who attacks us. We will also organize mutual wars with willing entities. While it takes some of the fun, it saves more.


And also, I'd like this cleared up aswel;
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf

26th January? I was on my way back from the Winter Summit in Iceland at that stage. Stuck on a rail replacement bus till gone 8pm.

So there is someone on the RVB shoutbox using your name? Or are you saying you didn't post that ever?
Oh and, suddenly the shoutbox is restricted, coincidence, I'm sure.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#242 - 2014-02-21 15:36:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Hendrick Tallardar
The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity.

Edit - Oh wait, you mean you want people who were used as pawns to "defend Goons" to now be pawns to "fight Goons"? Man, ever member of RvB should sign up then!

Nevermind Gevlon financed TEST to do this, and now made his own alliance to do this as well. Don't worry guys, things will work out well this time, just like his anti-CFC Ice Interdiction, and....oh....wait those all failed horribly. Oh well, if you really want to shoot people, including Gevlon's merry band of morons, join SniggWaffe. We actually know what we're doing and don't write blogs filled with sperging.
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#243 - 2014-02-21 15:39:52 UTC
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Historically if we want someone to not interfere with burn jita we throw fifty goons in battlecruisers at them if not simply blap them with our ganking ships, since it's always lone idiots rather than any organized response.

Really?


Hey can I link stuff without an awareness of context? Yes WE Can!


Bonus points if someone finds out they are both autistic and epileptic thanks to your informative post.

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Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#244 - 2014-02-21 15:40:05 UTC
I asked for a link to this thread so I could see its wonders myself. It is beautiful in a twisted way.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

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Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#245 - 2014-02-21 15:42:04 UTC
Danalee wrote:
You are a troll because you skip over everything that doesn't fit your narrative and jump on the small details with a fervor unknown to rational people.



You mean like Gevlon?

(Advice: I'm on a roll, I'd stop posting if I were you. You are literally making yourself look stupider with every post you make.)
Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#246 - 2014-02-21 15:42:09 UTC
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity.

Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#247 - 2014-02-21 15:44:29 UTC
Danalee wrote:
You are a troll because you skip over everything that doesn't fit your narrative and jump on the small details with a fervor unknown to rational people.

At times I thought you were actually trying to have an argument, now it's clear you are trying your hardest to quell out every form thereof.

I'm right and it hurts you lot so hard that sooner or later you'll pop a vein before admitting there is a middle ground.
I'm sorry, are you serious? You have just skipped several posts including ones responding directly to what you've reposted below. You saw one guy talk about your grammar and basically skipped the rest of the page. And you want to tell me that I'm skipping everything?

Danalee wrote:
Mangela, would you please set this straight with us?
Are these your words or not?
Mangala Solaris wrote:

Dear fellow RvB-ers. We have lot of fun in both Red versus Blue and purple wars.

But we unfortunately live in a *metagame* universe, where shooting the wrong Falcon can literally break coalitions. In a universe where spies, space-politicians, propagandist do their "serious" stuff, instead of just undocking and having fun.

We cannot allow even the appearance of being political, because we cannot allow a newbie think that if he joins us, he'll be banned from half of Nullsec by declared to be the spy of the other half. No matter how accurately we try to balance our actions, by luck or by others doing *metagame* we can end up fighting a war for someone else.

So, from now on, we will not initiate wars. We just fight Red versus Blue and of course we fight anyone who attacks us. We will also organize mutual wars with willing entities. While it takes some of the fun, it saves more.
Mangala doesn't need to answer this, since it's already been answered, in fact it was obvious in the original post. This was written by Gevlon as an "alternate world" Mangala post. It's nonsense. It's made up. It's false. Do you need further descriptions to clarify this?

Danalee wrote:
And also, I'd like this cleared up aswel;
Mangala Solaris wrote:
Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf

26th January? I was on my way back from the Winter Summit in Iceland at that stage. Stuck on a rail replacement bus till gone 8pm.

So there is someone on the RVB shoutbox using your name? Or are you saying you didn't post that ever?
Oh and, suddenly the shoutbox is restricted, coincidence, I'm sure.
Responded to this too. How many times are you going to repost it? I'm pretty sure you're bordering on breaking spam rules at this point.

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Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#248 - 2014-02-21 15:45:40 UTC
Dramaticus wrote:
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Historically if we want someone to not interfere with burn jita we throw fifty goons in battlecruisers at them if not simply blap them with our ganking ships, since it's always lone idiots rather than any organized response.

Really?


Hey can I link stuff without an awareness of context? Yes WE Can!


Bonus points if someone finds out they are both autistic and epileptic thanks to your informative post.

I like to think I provide a valuable service. One day Gevlon will surely thank me, once the doctors have found the proper dosage of meds for whatever it is he has.
Domino Artan
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#249 - 2014-02-21 15:49:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Domino Artan
gnshadowninja wrote:


Understand, marmite has no use for POCOs and your blind to this.


Comprehension is hard?

Marmite has attacked GSF POCOs - https://zkillboard.com/detail/36344458/ - but are too inept to take them.
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#250 - 2014-02-21 15:50:11 UTC
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity.

Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting.


Oh, you think the bad posting meme is your ally, but you merely adopted it. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see a good post until 2014.
Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#251 - 2014-02-21 15:51:55 UTC
Xaerael Endiel wrote:

(Advice: I'm on a roll, I'd stop posting if I were you. You are literally making yourself look stupider with every post you make.)


Wait, you just called me out for being stupider than you? Based on my grammar or something? STUPIDER?

Lucas, read before posting maybe? I replied to your poor attempt of rebuttal and I'm 99% sure the words are indeed originally written by Mangala, hence my question, to make it 100% sure either way.

I conceded to the facts long before you came trolling and am just looking for closure, deal with it.
The day I break any SPAM rules here will be the day you and yours have been banned from ever posting your nasty drivel again.
Butt out.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Samahiel Sotken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#252 - 2014-02-21 15:58:45 UTC
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity.

Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting.


Oh, you think the bad posting meme is your ally, but you merely adopted it. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see a good post until 2014.


My heart bleeds for you, wandering through the forums, a husk shell shocked and inured to it's trauma. But, maybe it makes you the poster EVE-O needs, if Goblin is the poster EVE-O deserves.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#253 - 2014-02-21 16:02:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The difference exists if the person has a choice. I mean if RvB directors would be able to make decisions, I could try to influence it. However the decision making of RvB leadership is identical to the belt rat:
1: object sighted
2: compare object with the list of hostiles provided by the programmer (Dev for belt rat, Goons for RvB)
3: if comparison is positive, attack, if not, ignore

There is absolutely nothing I (or anyone) can do to change the decisions of RvB or the belt rat. They were made long before I started playing EVE. Trying to engage diplomacy with either one would only provide a hilarious chatlog. The only rational response is destroying it.


That's not how RvB work. That's not how any person without a compromising mental disorder works.

You've been linked the chat logs wherein we used ~diplomacy~ to form RvBee. You could have done the same thing.

Well

Someone could have done the same thing, you couldn't as you don't understand how people work and can't tell if a person shooting you is an NPC or not.

To whit, your first contact with RvB, in any form, was blogging about them, and calling them morons, pets, and RMTers. You have doubled down, nay, trippled down, on this by now claiming they are a GSF arm which has existed in secret for a number of years, for the sole aim of taking POCOs which may or may not have ever been included in the game, and defending our suicide ships from empty air in a series of events we organised years after RvB even existed.
Then, still having not made any contact, you post a thread where you rant on and on and on about how they are a massive scam and blah blah blah autism.

And you wonder why, when an RvB FC asks for people to come shoot your dribbling idiots, that 100 people x up. Why, with literally no incentive other than to make you look like an idiot, we get 100 people willing to clone jump.

Our turn out for these things goes up every time you ramble some more incoherent garbage, so does theirs. We literally have people asking when the next POCO op is, such is their desire to rub egg in your face (again) whilst reading the corp/alliance chats in your group as you get more and more frustrated at having achieved 0% of your stated win condition.

You're so bad at posting, that you are literally scuppering your own tiny, tiny chance of ever achieving anything.

We're most of the way through month two now, and only two things have happened:

1 - you have lost billions of ISK that you've paid highsec PVPers to sit in Jita.
2 - almost the entire player-base of the game is pointing and laughing at you for being completely ineffective and ranting nonsense at every turn.

Christ man, why haven't you slinked off in shame yet? Is this not embarassment enough? How many billions do you need to throw in the bin before you will finally realise you should have backed out in week one, when you realised you would need to actually fight for them?

From my POV, don't stop. The comedy train at your expense doesn't seem to have any brakes.
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Historically if we want someone to not interfere with burn jita we throw fifty goons in battlecruisers at them if not simply blap them with our ganking ships, since it's always lone idiots rather than any organized response.

Really?


Why do you insist on linking evidence of you being utterly, demonstrably, wrong? You do this all the time and it is really bizarre.

Don't you see the irony of "But the really important thing is that Miniluv and by extension Goons are no longer a threat in highsec" when you have mashed your head into a wall for two months and been unable to stop us achieving goals? Or, the fact that miniluv alone does between 400-1000bil a month in damage in highsec? (Something we already pointed out to you, stop blocking out facts dude).

Oh right, and we were 'broke' then, despite having spent a few 10s of trillions since.

lolzzzzzzzz

Samahiel Sotken wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
The amount of stupid in the OP hurts in so many different ways. Please, just stop writing for all eternity.

Better keep a low profile Hendrick. Goblin may decide that PL are goon pets, and then he'll come after you with the only weapon even WAFFLES can not counter. Bad forum posting.


Too slow! He already counted PL as goon pets in one of his affronts to statistics.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#254 - 2014-02-21 16:02:58 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Xaerael Endiel wrote:

(Advice: I'm on a roll, I'd stop posting if I were you. You are literally making yourself look stupider with every post you make.)


Wait, you just called me out for being stupider than you? Based on my grammar or something? STUPIDER?

Lucas, read before posting maybe? I replied to your poor attempt of rebuttal and I'm 99% sure the words are indeed originally written by Mangala, hence my question, to make it 100% sure either way.

I conceded to the facts long before you came trolling and am just looking for closure, deal with it.
The day I break any SPAM rules here will be the day you and yours have been banned from ever posting your nasty drivel again.
Butt out.
I did read, and I saw no response. All I see is the same failed attempts at witty trolling that you have done from the start.

Copy pasting your post over and over is spam. Fact. And HA! OUR drivel. That's hilarious considering the OP.

And just FYI, stupider is in fact grammatically correct.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#255 - 2014-02-21 16:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
You should all stop shitting on Danalee.

He's trolling (and bad at it) but the only reason he is ITT is to keep up the pretence that they're in it for the same reason Gevlon is, such that they can keep their free wardec.

If he stops, Gevlon might stop throwing his money down the toilet and blogging about it. This would be a negative outcome for us all and I don't know how I would replace that much schadenfreude in my life.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#256 - 2014-02-21 16:18:56 UTC
This GIF basically encapsulates what is happening to Gevlon right now

http://i.imgur.com/nVTpQtw.gif

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#257 - 2014-02-21 16:21:07 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
You should all stop shitting on Danalee.

He's trolling (and bad at it) but the only reason he is ITT is to keep up the pretence that they're in it for the same reason Gevlon is, such that they can keep their free wardec.

If he stops, Gevlon might stop throwing his money down the toilet and blogging about it. This would be a negative outcome for us all and I don't know how I would replace that much schadenfreude in my life.


Nah, I already conceded that the OP was incorrect unless more data suddenly proved otherwise (it didn't yet)
Than some lies catched my eve which kept me in the thread for a bit longer.

I'm happy we are getting paid to fight CFC alliances and RVB, don't get me wrong. Also happy that someone is fronting the brunt of the bills but my posts have nothing to do with that.

Stupider is grammatically dubious to say the least

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#258 - 2014-02-21 16:21:33 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:

You've been linked the chat logs wherein we used ~diplomacy~ to form RvBee. You could have done the same thing.

Damn, people like you make directors cry. READ THE DAMN MOTD!
"Gevlon is bad in diplomacy" is the 2 versions old narrative and was replaced. Read what Mangala wrote, you should be echoing that. Claiming that RvB protected Goons in 2013 April because Gevlon was autistic in 2014 February makes you look stupid.

Khanh'rhh wrote:

To whit, your first contact with RvB, in any form, was blogging about them, and calling them morons, pets, and RMTers.

No, my first contact with RvB was them jumping on my 50-man baby alliance to finish it before it started.

Khanh'rhh wrote:

Our turn out for these things goes up every time you ramble some more incoherent garbage, so does theirs. We literally have people asking when the next POCO op is, such is their desire to rub egg in your face (again) whilst reading the corp/alliance chats in your group as you get more and more frustrated at having achieved 0% of your stated win condition.

Then why are you trying to stop me? I'm a bliss to GSF. You should be hoping I never stop.

Khanh'rhh wrote:

Christ man, why haven't you slinked off in shame yet? Is this not embarassment enough? How many billions do you need to throw in the bin before you will finally realise you should have backed out in week one, when you realised you would need to actually fight for them?

In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed.



My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com

Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#259 - 2014-02-21 16:25:30 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:

In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed.





Cool.

How many POCOs did you take?
Pew Terror
All of it
#260 - 2014-02-21 16:28:05 UTC
BKM Industries wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
BKM Industries wrote:
So when we brought a 10 man BS death fleet to your guys home system and it took almost an hour for you guys to muster 40+ and the FC kept saying on coms he will not fight till you guys had 40+ with 20+ BS's and logi that teaches people how to not be afraid?

How does a FC who is afraid to lose a fight cry's on coms for overwhelming numbers teach people to not be afraid?


Oh hey, I missed this post skimming through.

Could you estimate the DPS required to break the reps of your cloud of neutral logi?

I'm thinking 40 BSes might take down one, perhaps get another in low armour, before you dock.

If you play docking games with neut logi, expect this every time. Your bed, you made it.



We had 0 neutral logi and you may want to learn more about the game. You can not dock while sitting at a gate. So to answer the DPS question 0 DPS was needed to counter the 0 neutral logi. Might want to re-think your logic.


Confirming this is wrong: TeleDock