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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#181 - 2014-02-21 02:18:04 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
gevlon riddle me this

before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level

why did we go to the three and a half year effort to create a pair of 4000 man spy alliances with nothing in highsec we needed to defend with these spy alliances


This is the same inconvenient point I made back several pages ago which he brushed aside and ignored, as it destroys his entire premise. P

I'm sure he just kept mashing where the moderate comment button is on wordpress while cursing ccp as goon pets for failing to code it into eveo instead of ignoring it

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Johan March
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2014-02-21 03:07:00 UTC
I think Gevlon is just really, really pissed off that Mynnna, Weaselior, et. al. have multiples of his interstellar kredit net worth. Ayn Rand comes to him in his dreams and screams at him in Russian that he is nothing more than a dirty, dirty, moocher.
Saint Dongsmith
Dongsmith Investments and Acquisitions
#183 - 2014-02-21 03:55:55 UTC
that is a lot of words signifying nothing op
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#184 - 2014-02-21 04:11:15 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
gevlon riddle me this

before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level

You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me.

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2014-02-21 04:17:13 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
gevlon riddle me this

before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level

You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me.

could you explain at length in graph form how each of the times we directed a firm and warm stream of urine at your face and the face of every other pubbie like you just to show we could we needed rvb to save our

uh

suicide catalysts

from the vicious wardecs that would have otherwised crippled the rain of suicide catalysts by someone whoring on them as they suicided into miners and the exact amount of isk per hour we've earned from our four years of effort

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#186 - 2014-02-21 04:19:36 UTC
I think I've figured out his nastiest surprise of all, which he will wait to reveal years from now...

This whole charade of ridiculous and loony blog and forum posts is done on purpose. As we speak, he is computing all of the isk that Goons could have earned ratting but didn't because they were reading and responding to his drivel.

How many billions, perhaps trillions of isk is Gevlon effectively stealing from Goons by wasting their time?

This is the greatest...

scam....

ever

Gevlon, you are a genius!

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#187 - 2014-02-21 04:26:36 UTC
Joke's on him, ishtars mean afk ratting.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#188 - 2014-02-21 04:48:07 UTC
Whilst reading this thread my AFK Ishtars have been making billions.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#189 - 2014-02-21 04:58:09 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Joke's on him, ishtars mean afk ratting.


I think we need some action against bot aspirant behaviour in nullsec.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#190 - 2014-02-21 04:59:04 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
gevlon riddle me this

before conquerable highsec pocos existed there was nothing that we could gain in highsec at an alliance level

You're right. There is nothing in highsec a Goon needs. So 2x Burn Jita, Nx Hulkageddon were all imagined by me.



There is fighting for something because you feel you need it, and fighting for the lulz.

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Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#191 - 2014-02-21 05:06:03 UTC
I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.

Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have!

But that's not the interesting part...

Now some of you may thus conclude "ok, if the income is insignificant for a large nullsec alliance, why do the Goons care about *their* POCOs". I don't know. It makes Gevlon's quest quite peculiar.

But... the CFC leadership *does* know what it's doing. They are cunning, soo very cunning. Maybe there is some kind of grand plan here, something only they know. Some angle, some event to come, some market manipulation. But what is it? They aren't telling. Maybe it's just "we have POCOs lol" after all.

But Gevlon figures there has to be *something*, even though he has no idea what it is. So he's chasing this, this shadow, this hypothetical grand design.

And once you realize that Gevlon is chasing shadows... once we have this *context* allowing us to understand his behaviour... it all makes sense. These graphs, these charts, they are powerful lights to pierce the shadows and reveal the truth!

Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!

Wow... I feel so much better now.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Istyn
Freight Club
#192 - 2014-02-21 05:11:19 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
mostly The Marmite Collective, the alliance with the best killboard ratio in EVE.


I'm not sure this is actually true. Even if it is, it is largely meaningless, other than from a mercenary-advert perspective.
Bully B
JTS Projekt
#193 - 2014-02-21 05:19:09 UTC
Louis Robichaud wrote:

Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!

Finally, I can see the naked truth, that makes me happy. Blink

Bully B EVE
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2014-02-21 05:22:06 UTC
Bully B wrote:
Louis Robichaud wrote:

Of *course* RvB are the goon's pets! Of course Professor Clio has used his giant head to bamboozle the RvB CEO! Of course the leadership has tricked all the members! Of course RvB members are risk adverse! Of course RvB leaps to the CFC's defence at every turn! Of course RvB was created 4 years ago for this very task - the goons knew that high Sec POCOs were coming! IT ALL MAKES SENSE! It's *all* connected! Can't you see!?!

Finally, I can see the naked truth, that makes me happy. Blink


hehehe

But I'm not kidding when I said it made me feel better. Now that I understand where Gevlon is coming from, I feel a zen-like detachment, it's very soothing.

Of course I'll still have fun poking holes in his logic, but without that sense of urgency.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#195 - 2014-02-21 05:24:13 UTC
Istyn wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
mostly The Marmite Collective, the alliance with the best killboard ratio in EVE.


I'm not sure this is actually true. Even if it is, it is largely meaningless, other than from a mercenary-advert perspective.


Wow. Kudos to you for making that post. And I'll always be willing to admit that Marmite is *very* good at what it does.

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#196 - 2014-02-21 05:31:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Gevlon Goblin
Louis Robichaud wrote:
I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.

Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have!


Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours.

But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years.

By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs".
Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol".

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#197 - 2014-02-21 05:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Froggy Storm
Erotica 1 wrote:
I think I've figured out his nastiest surprise of all, which he will wait to reveal years from now...

This whole charade of ridiculous and loony blog and forum posts is done on purpose. As we speak, he is computing all of the isk that Goons could have earned ratting but didn't because they were reading and responding to his drivel.

How many billions, perhaps trillions of isk is Gevlon effectively stealing from Goons by wasting their time?

This is the greatest...

scam....

ever

Gevlon, you are a genius!


Damn phone at my response.


"Will you double the lost isk?"
Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2014-02-21 05:47:45 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Louis Robichaud wrote:
I don't think Gevlon has given serious thought to what RvB got out of this on top of fights. We got POCOs, lots of POCOs, and their associated income. During the great POCO rush of November 2013, only 2 groups were ready for a big grab - RvB, and the Goons. Cooperation made a lot of sense for both RvB and the CFC.

Of course, this income would be insignificant for the Goons, but for us it's quite nice. We have no moons, our members do little ratting/missioning so tax income is low, we don't rent space... but POCO cash we have!


Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours.

But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years.

By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs".
Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol".


Or maybe they choose to defend pocos to have those fun fights instead or endless structure grinding? Doesn't it sound simpler and more sane? But noooo, there has to be a big conspiracy.

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Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#199 - 2014-02-21 05:53:21 UTC
" Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years."

You mean Burn Jita right?

Yes Gevlon, of course it means we are pets. Of course Mynnia is mocking you as we speak, and the only way to regain your mojo is to drink his precious POCO blood, yeeeessss....

I blog a bit http://hspew.blogspot.ca
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#200 - 2014-02-21 06:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs



We still have not seen any evidence of that.