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JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-11-27 22:36:57 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Andski wrote:
JitaJane wrote:
Andski wrote:
we reimburse 100b+ quarterly just in subcaps nbd, there's also capital and supercap subsidies, PLEX for FCs and our space truckers, and we publish our finances so v0v keep spreading bullshit

Could you link me a url? I've been working on a hi sec feasibility project and simply do not have the numbers to crunch. I'll admit I have done some outside extrapolations but they are half guesswork. If I find a profitability option y'all missed I can share it with you...


Feel free to see for yourself:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlIIq5agK7rWdDRnaWwzMVRrYTFCTG1sZEJhTWN1Z1E&authkey=CMng2u0B&hl=en_US#gid=5



Im going to start calling the Goons, The sansha slaves.

If i was given this sheet i for a real business i would call the police.


Im reserving the space to tell you were the cracks in this balance sheet is but ive spotted them on every page.

example

Your TLDR section has the first line as an extrapolation of the daily isk in But

the outgoings are not extrapolated and those have been used for your calculations.

Unless you bring in exactly the same amount of isk every day between all 8000 of you.


You should all be asking questions here but as we all know Goons/Sansha are not programmed to ask questions just troll the forums and suicide gank whoever there master tells them to


Or perhaps while they may like to keep an eye on the lions share of the corp general finances they don't sweat the small stuff. Because, you know, it's a game and all.

Most Null sec pilots, if their area's have been set up properly, have more than enough ISK for their personal use. And I hear that for many, fattening their imaginary banking account and making sure they never miss a second of training time isn't the primary reason they play.

They play for the entertainment value, of all things.

What a bunch of tools. Roll

All that is true. What is also true is that a handful of econ nerds who actually enjoy doing the small math and optimizing systems will provide a lot of passive income to fund pew-pew. as it is from what I can read of their books taxes appear to be a minority income, which encourages the belief that they may be in fact unnecessary. First glance guess is that they are not making manu profit. As I assume manu is being used as one does not become the largest sov holder by being stupid.

90% of of the time my posts are about something I actually find interesting and want to learn more about. Do not be alarmed.

Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#42 - 2011-11-27 22:37:19 UTC
Its not that we are dumb its that your spreadsheet makes no sense

and lets be honest 8000 people turning in 15% of there ratting is a lot of isk

where does all that isk go?

as your balance sheet omits that little fact and there is a massive hole in your accounts that has just disappeared of the face of New Eden.

No what could you do with all that Isk


Sansha Goons programmed to ask no questions and no their place

I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#43 - 2011-11-27 22:44:08 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Its not that we are dumb its that your spreadsheet makes no sense

and lets be honest 8000 people turning in 15% of there ratting is a lot of isk

where does all that isk go?

as your balance sheet omits that little fact and there is a massive hole in your accounts that has just disappeared of the face of New Eden.

No what could you do with all that Isk


Sansha Goons programmed to ask no questions and no their place



I think your issue is that you believe 15% tax, for them, is anywhere close to a significant portion of their income.

It is likely as significant to them as the .50 (or whatever number smaller than .99) part of the amount paid line of your current paycheck.

Nobody really cares, except apparently you.

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#44 - 2011-11-27 22:46:59 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Its not that we are dumb its that your spreadsheet makes no sense

and lets be honest 8000 people turning in 15% of there ratting is a lot of isk

where does all that isk go?

as your balance sheet omits that little fact and there is a massive hole in your accounts that has just disappeared of the face of New Eden.

No what could you do with all that Isk


Sansha Goons programmed to ask no questions and no their place



I think your issue is that you believe 15% tax, for them, is anywhere close to a significant portion of their income.

It is likely as significant to them as the .50 (or whatever number smaller than .99) part of the amount paid line of your current paycheck.

Nobody really cares, except apparently you.



hello mate

could you explain this waffle below please


It is likely as significant to them as the .50 (or whatever number smaller than .99) part of the amount paid line of your current paycheck.

I have had threads like this before were the goons call in alts to just swamp the thread in inane rubbish so please take your time
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#45 - 2011-11-27 22:48:03 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Its not that we are dumb its that your spreadsheet makes no sense

and lets be honest 8000 people turning in 15% of there ratting is a lot of isk

where does all that isk go?

as your balance sheet omits that little fact and there is a massive hole in your accounts that has just disappeared of the face of New Eden.

No what could you do with all that Isk


Sansha Goons programmed to ask no questions and no their place



heh, there's the assumption that a) all of the characters in GSF are used for ratting and b) all of the alliance's membercorps pay taxes to the alliance (they don't)

I don't rat with /any/ of my characters, and I know plenty of goons who don't generate any tax income for the alliance either. It's called scamming, and the alliance doesn't take the slightest cut. I can see how much ISK in taxes goes into corp wallet on any given day (I have roles) and, really, it's not much.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Becka Cynos
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2011-11-27 22:59:31 UTC
Note: Forum swarming by the CFC does not increase your intelligence levels.
In another aspect, maybe you (CFC members) should realized how much of a pawn you are, and when the time arises, how fast you will be dropped and forgotten when your services are useless.

Perhaps you should think how much ISK you have handed to your masters with your plot to destroy gallente ice fields. I know I've made billions in your farfetched attempt, so therefore if even I made billions, you essentially handed your masters hundreds of billions, if not in trillions, to spend on personal ventures.

Keep being the lowly pawn, thinking you have it good.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2011-11-27 23:03:39 UTC
forum alts don't have a say in anything, get lost scrub

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2011-11-27 23:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
imagine the billions Mittani is spending on personal projects, like the ultimate NeX wardrobe
or a pimped out bhaalgorn to roam lowsec with

edit: or a bitchin' officer fit t3 roaming tengu

imagine
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#49 - 2011-11-27 23:07:08 UTC
too bad cascade imminent doesn't have any income for its leaders to embezzle (((

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#50 - 2011-11-27 23:07:27 UTC
Because none of us made bank on ice either amirite? Roll
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#51 - 2011-11-27 23:10:42 UTC
i didn't bother maintaining my buy orders so I couldn't invest much in oxytopes, welp

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#52 - 2011-11-27 23:11:36 UTC
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2011-11-27 23:12:30 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it


what missing billions?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#54 - 2011-11-27 23:15:40 UTC
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it


what missing billions?




you're hilarious


i suggest that you read back through this thread. At this rate im starting to thing that the sansha incursions are being done by drugged up Goons without their knowledge.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Becka Cynos
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-11-27 23:16:33 UTC
More Ad Hominem please.
Perhaps try attacking the argument next time?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2011-11-27 23:18:50 UTC
Andski wrote:
too bad cascade imminent doesn't have any income for its leaders to embezzle (((

yeah i owe archie at least 50m in unpaid FC service charge fees already
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#57 - 2011-11-27 23:19:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Karn Dulake wrote:
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it


what missing billions?




you're hilarious


i suggest that you read back through this thread. At this rate im starting to thing that the sansha incursions are being done by drugged up Goons without their knowledge.


i suggest that you tell me what "missing billions" you are talking about because you really don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#58 - 2011-11-27 23:21:02 UTC
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it


what missing billions?




you're hilarious


i suggest that you read back through this thread. At this rate im starting to thing that the sansha incursions are being done by drugged up Goons without their knowledge.


i suggest that you tell me what "missing billions" you are talking about because you really don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about



dont worry baby every body else does
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#59 - 2011-11-27 23:22:32 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Andski wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it


what missing billions?




you're hilarious


i suggest that you read back through this thread. At this rate im starting to thing that the sansha incursions are being done by drugged up Goons without their knowledge.


i suggest that you tell me what "missing billions" you are talking about because you really don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about



dont worry baby every body else does


whatever, go back to running missions and making scrub ISK while smugging about how nobody is getting a dime out of your 40M ISK/hr

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Jita Alt666
#60 - 2011-11-27 23:23:25 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Look i dont know what the leaders of the goons are doing with the missing billions but neither do you as its not showing up in the books that are posted for the sansha zombies to see, i mean Goon rank and file.


perhaps you could look into it



Making a call: Karn Dulake is and alt of TeRedrum.

The syntax - the same
The spelling - the same
The goon claims - the same
The budget claims - sweet irony