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Multiple accounts to play the game now?

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-02-20 00:42:09 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Maybe they all had their drones assisted to someone, I hear that's a way to make use of many characters effectively.


Don't forget that this is a well balanced and good game mechanic, that N3 loves.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#42 - 2014-02-20 00:47:34 UTC
Spurty wrote:
But yah don't PVP solo if you don't want to die to a small fleet of 30 n00b ships and end up on eve news 24


If that's really your view, you have a very narrow window of experience. It is certainly possible to solo pvp (without boosters or links) and win fights, even against multiple opponents.

You find this sort of thing in FW areas all the time and also in nulls ex, at least where I fly in Syndicate.

It just takes a bit of dedication, preparedness to lose ships while you learn (and never stop learning) and a touch of either patience or recklessness (I'm mostly patient, but every now and then I just think **** it, go for it and see what happens - and they're always good fights).
Brink Albosa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2014-02-20 00:56:39 UTC
About 6 months ago, I decided I was not only going to be a one account man, but a one character man on top of that. Even as a criminal I don't even use a hauling alt. I get space-truckers that do public courier contracts to bring me the modules, hulls, ammo; whatever I need to keep going.

There's literally no reason to play this way, so it's more of a mindset than anything. (Virtues)

I'd love for link alts and logi to show on killmails.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-02-20 10:34:55 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
It's been Alts-Online for years. Ever since the genius that was the cyno coupled with "power of 2" deals.

CCP knows it sucks, but they can't help themselves.

-People who are so terrible they can't compete against real players without cheating,,
Excuse me? Cheating? Having multiple accounts is in no way "cheating". Like someone else here said, you get attacked by 10 characters or 10 characters, it's all the same if it's 1 person or 10 people. This is NOT cheating...

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There will always be those so lost and without integrity they will fight scream and insist multiboxing isn't lame and tantamount to cheating.

You are looking for integrity in EVE or any Computer Game? People are here to win, to get the advantage ANY way possible. That is the point of any Computer Game. Your arguments are very naive at best. Everyone has to choose how low they are willing to go. Myself, I refuse to pod anyone, that's something I don't like. But I have multiple accounts because I damned well want to and what you think with regards to my decision is meaningless...and it's still not cheating...
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-02-20 13:20:59 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
It's been Alts-Online for years. Ever since the genius that was the cyno coupled with "power of 2" deals.

CCP knows it sucks, but they can't help themselves.

-People who are so terrible they can't compete against real players without cheating,,
Excuse me? Cheating? Having multiple accounts is in no way "cheating". Like someone else here said, you get attacked by 10 characters or 10 characters, it's all the same if it's 1 person or 10 people. This is NOT cheating...

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There will always be those so lost and without integrity they will fight scream and insist multiboxing isn't lame and tantamount to cheating.

You are looking for integrity in EVE or any Computer Game? People are here to win, to get the advantage ANY way possible. That is the point of any Computer Game. Your arguments are very naive at best. Everyone has to choose how low they are willing to go. Myself, I refuse to pod anyone, that's something I don't like. But I have multiple accounts because I damned well want to and what you think with regards to my decision is meaningless...and it's still not cheating...


That's your take on it.

You're entitled to your opinion. You're entitled to be wrong.
But I repeat myself.

My eve laughs at your "do anything" eve.
My eve uses skill and teamates as was intended.

Your eve is a pathetic struggle to end up "on top". As if that were a real place.
You already know you can't compete as a gamer, you admit as much to everyone but yourself. So you console yourself with hollow victories lacking any true personal accomplishment.

What I think is obviously meaningful, or you would not feel so impassioned to argue against it.

Cheaters never win.
You might get a killmail, but in reality you've already defeated yourself.

Try playing like a real gamer, with integrity,
instead of your normal run-of-the-mill lame-o MMO multiboxer. Blink


"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#46 - 2014-02-20 17:30:43 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Excuse me? Cheating? Having multiple accounts is in no way "cheating". Like someone else here said, you get attacked by 10 characters or 10 characters, it's all the same if it's 1 person or 10 people. This is NOT cheating...

It's not cheating in the strict sense of the word. It is taking the "throw some money at it" (easy) route out of the challenge of being outnumbered/outgunned.

Buying gold ammo in a P2W MMO is not cheating. Multiboxing is not cheating. You can do both of them legitimately. They are however equivalent cowardly easy ways to get out of a challenge, so don't expect sympathy or respect.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-02-20 17:48:35 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:


You know what a good way is to defeat someone who throws this much money at Eve? Make their investment pointless.


Someone who throws that much money at EVE is either very rich or very sad.

If they are very rich then they wont care that you make the investment pointless.

If they are very sad...well then there is nothing you can do to make it sadder than it already is.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#48 - 2014-02-20 18:25:58 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
If they are very rich then they wont care that you make the investment pointless.

That has not been my experience in many (if not most) cases.

KuroVolt wrote:
If they are very sad...well then there is nothing you can do to make it sadder than it already is.

Sure there is.

In both cases you just have to have a bit of luck and know which buttons to push.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-02-20 20:07:17 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#50 - 2014-02-21 01:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Katherine Devonshire
Hal Morsh wrote:
Do we now need multiple accounts to win at the game?


No, but then I may have a different definition of "winning."

However, I am quite certain that CCP themselves considers pushing their players down this path is certainly winning in their books. Specifically, their accounting books.

KuroVolt wrote:
Someone who throws that much money at EVE is either very rich or very sad.


As someone who can barely squeeze in an hour per day, I wholeheartedly agree.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#51 - 2014-02-21 02:15:59 UTC
Lady Katherine Devonshire wrote:
As someone who can barely squeeze in an hour per day, I wholeheartedly agree.

o_O that's mind boggling. My head would explode with that setup.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#52 - 2014-02-21 02:27:23 UTC
Personally I would say its helpful but in no way necessary to have alt accounts. Ive been in lowsec for almost three years now with one account and done just fine, although having alliance mates who can run things from highsec is definetely useful now and then.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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DSpite Culhach
#53 - 2014-02-21 05:55:45 UTC
First off, to avoid being attacked with Flammenwerfer, i'm just expressing a personal idea.

If I was playing WoW (god forbid) I would have plenty of local mates to go do stuff with. I even know a few couples that play together, alas, this is EVE, and the only local that still plays calls me up at 2am to say stuff like "guess what I killed today! Come on, GUESS! GUESS DAMMIT!"

I think I have heard the quote "use a scout and HTFU" a million times, and to do that I would need to pay double fees, and multibox, or find a kind soul that will scout for me, and this being EVE, I know how that would end up 75% of the time.

I don't personally see EVE as "solo" anything, and if you say "HIsec", well, I have always looked as hisec as training wheels, and not actually driving the game. Multiple accounts are pretty much a lifesaver for a lot of activities, and without, either the risk spikes up, or efficiency drops, slowing down gains dramatically, like say, solo mining.

If CCP allowed one account to log on multiple times would I use it (maybe with a small added fee)? Sure, I mean, it would allow me to have a market guy always a key flick away, and would allow me to maybe salvage behind me, or have a laugh running missions with 2 ships, but I personally don't think I'd go out in fights multiboxing, then again, I don't get the combat rush many people get in this game, as after 20+ years of killing people (from the DOOM days) in games, it's become kinda "meh".

I guess I'll stay gimped and suffer the consequences.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-02-21 11:30:03 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Welcome to eve.

It's sort of "pay to win".

More accounts, more prizes!

If you want maximum "prizes", start a website that pokes fun at old people, poor people and hey anyone different. Then bring them all to eve to "create content" *SNORK*

But yah don't PVP solo if you don't want to die to a small fleet of 30 n00b ships and end up on eve news 24



I lost a gila to 20 talwars on a gate, thing is I thought it was hilarious, they had a sense of humor as well. It was a PL fleet.


That happened to me once in a Wolf, it was PL in Amarr FW, Talwars and a few frigates. Took two of them with me though :p

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

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