Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Umm it onyl takes a month to get into a BS. Now if you want to argue the skill time spent. Just remember a 2.5 wekk bomber can kill your BS pretty easy.


Now I wish I wasn't going to tell you HTFU, but I am.
HTFU. Theres no reason why you can't take 1-2 of your main large guns/launchers off your ship and replace them with smaller equivalents to take out frigates. Also do you not have T2 light drones/Drone Interfacing 3-5 (really need to make that skill mandatory).

Maybe battleships shouldn't fly alone either?

And seriously, in missions you can work around it. It's not as if the AI is actually, you know, I. Either pull range or sick the drones on them.

Also, no one said titans. Just capitals. All of them.

This is true and is the whole point, and it is a flaw in the game that is exploited by griefers that don't dedicate time and effort to the game, but just log in once in a while with a cheap setup to shot ships.

Why not just fly missile boats? Personally I would not want to fly anything else for missions and general pve.

MJD and smart bombs in utillity highs.

why the MJD?

To get away from stuf that might allert Concord.

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(though I find it strange, that size up ships don't get their bonuses on lower sized weapon systems as well.)

Not at all might actually be an improvement. I'm fairly sure this topic has to be an attempt to troll.

Two ships fitted for anti-frigate duty, 1 battleship class and 1 frigate class: why should the frigate class ship be better than the battleship class? It's understandable that a battleship be a fire-support vessel, but would it be that unreasonable to simply change a Megathron's bonus from 5% damage to Large Hybrid Turrets to 5% damage to Hybrid Turrets or a Raven's bonus from 5% bonus to Cruise and Torpedo Launcher rate of fire to 5% bonus to missile launcher rate of fire? Is large hybrid technology that different from small hybrid technology or cruise launcher technology that much different from light missile launcher technology? Isn't part of the dispsarity that we must throw away at least 1 of a battleship's hull bonuses (if not both) in order to be at all combat effective in the frigate category?

Even if this was done, battleship pilots would still have to pay a lot more training time and risk a lot more ISK to get the same DPS bonus that a frigate or destroyer (or cruiser) pilot gets in a faster, cheaper ship.

Just noticed, a barely 6 months old character complaining about 2 week old characters beeing able to kill 6 months old characters....

wow....

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Freiday


Dont even get me startet on that fitts... Some of them are... ... ... wow...

If only there were some kind of module you could fit that would slow down those pesky smaller ships, or improve your tracking, or make those smaller ships look like bigger ships, or make it so their ships turn off hilariously.

With less sarcasm, the following modules will help a larger ship against a smaller one:

-stasis webifiers
-warp scramblers
-tracking computer/enhancers
-target painters
-energy neutralizers
-'rapid' launchers or 'dual' guns

I understand the balance, and it is frustrating, especially if you have been tackled and are now basically helpless.

Unfortunately most of the things you would do to shake a tackler are useless in PvE. Scramblers, Disruptors, ECM, and Neuts do not function in PvE. As much as people want to claim this is some sort of stubbornness over losing ISK/hr, it's not. Its one step up from launching a ship with empty mod slots. Webs can be useful, but in most cases you need several to slow frigates down enough to do any real good.

The grim fact is that people are as bold as they are about invading missions and trying to get missioners to shoot at them because a battleship is in fact easily destroyed by them. It's easy, nearly risk free, and the kind of ship that is all but immune to a PvE battleship costs a small fraction of the price. Unbonused drones are easily dealt with, and once they are that frigate has all day to bring in friends to finish the job, or if it has some neuts it can just wait for the NPC's to do it for him.

I would not change much. It would be great to make gun bonuses universal instead of limited by size, but really it's not a big deal. There are ways for the prepared to deal with it.

The onty thing I might change is the range of Smartbombs. I think they should be more along the lines of 7k, 10k and 13k base range for small, medium and large, with modules for extending the range available. Smartbombs come built in with balancing factors and should be able to counter drones and close tackle unless the tackle has range bonuses of it's own.