Ships & Modules

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Hail is terribly underpowered? Its falloff bonus is removed? Winmatar's effective range is pretty much all falloff. Now they'll do more damage than EMP/Fusion/Phased Plasma with the same range.

And the Blasters will still be stuck with void with the same -50% falloff modifier that they just removed from Hail.

Meanwhile, null is stuck with the lowest range boost of any of the T2 range boosting ammo (for the short ranged variant of eahc weapon type).
Gallente still won't be able to catch Winmatar to get within blaster range. If they do, T2 autos will spit out much more DPS due to hail doing much better applied DPS.
Caldari rails will be buffed though, yay for only 2 viable races.
Drakes and Canes may become Drakes, Feroxs and Canes.
Woot!

They reinstated the falloff penalty, but at a reduced value (-25%).

So its still a WInmatar buff.

I'm not saying I'm better than you.

Its criticism (in sarcastic form) of CCPs poor balance.

Nice job completely missing the point, idiot.
The term "Winmatar" refers to how hilariously OP the race as a whole is.

Still, great stuff, yet another buff to the best weapon system in the game. I guess CCP just couldn't have a hybrid buff without giving the projectile packing pwnmobiles some extra love.

Being fast = dictating engagement range = Win

Plus their weapon systems track better with base stats, and have ammo that can give tracking boosts, and many of their ships have tracking bonuses.

Plus they just plain take less damage due to small sigs. If you do more damage, but then miss or lose a lot of it due to firing at a small sig radius target, then your actual DPS isn't nearly as good as the paper DPS.

Winmatar win because they can hit you when you can't hit back.

Either you can't track them, or you can't get within range while they continue to do damage to you (even if they are not doing all that much due to falloff).
And of course, you can't neut them to stop them from firing like ships using hybrids and lasers, so they often have more cap to spare even if they do have weak caps.

Then figure that they are going to select their damage type, and go against your weakest resist. Your laser/hybrid may have started with more DPS, but does that still hold true when resistances are taken into account?
Likely not. Then when tracking/range and sig are taken into account, your poor hit chance/quality just hands the win to the Winmatar.

The only race that can compete against those strengths is the Caldari missile boats. They also don't need cap to fire.
Their primary weapons systems have ridiculously long range (Heavy missiles are just way too long ranged, wtf is up with missile skills granting a 2.25x range increase, while gunnery skils only grant a 1.25x range increase), and transversal has no effect on them, so closing the distance has no effect on applied damage.
-Though pure speed does severely limit damage, as does small sig radii.

And of course, once you get into larger groups at moderate ranges, where ships get alphad, slow missiles fall out of favor, leaving Winmatar Winning Eve.

Already pointed out, I suppose I should edit my first post.

Still, if they buff hail (by reducing the range penalty) without doing the same for the other T2 ammo counterparts, its a buff to Winmatar

Read previous posts, the tracking bonus mixup was already pointed out (twice before you) and I already acknowledged the mistake (before you posted).

Putting the falloff penalty back in, but at 25% instead of the previous 50%, while Void retains the 50% penalty, is a buff to projectiles, plain and simple.

Hybrid T2 ammo just got more inferior relative to projectile T2 ammo.

The short range autocannon ammo has a 0.75 falloff modifier, the short range blaster ammo has a 0.5 fall off modifier
Win for Winmatar.

The long range autocannon ammo has a 1.5 falloff modifier, the long range blaster ammo has a 1.25 falloff modifier
Win for Winmatar.

[sarcasm]Right..... because boosting short range projectile ammo without boosting the hybrid or laser counterpart isn't a buff to Minmatar.
Of course! I'm so stupid for thinking it was![/sarcasm]

Other posts? are you referring to the drone damage multiplier thread?

[sarcasm]So by that logic, the game should have EM("Amarr") drones be good in no area whatsoever?
Ahhh how could I not see it! I'm so stupid!

In that thread, you were also arguing that Kin drones weren't viable because they didn't out DPS Therm drones enough (when going against targets with weak Kin resists) while all the while being faster and having better tracking.
Clearly Kin drones are not viable and don't conform to your "good in some areas, bad in others" concept for the way games should be.
How could I not understand that!? Im such a clueless idiot.[/sarcasm]

How to fit a brawling Minmatar ship:
1. Fit largest autocannons
2. If applicable, fit correctly sized neuts
3. Fit oversize/extra plates
4. Fit DCU, and then whatever ratio of EANM:gyrostabs you feel like
5. Fit MWD
6. Fit all those mids with whatever you want. Webs, cap boosters, sebos, anything
You now have absurd dps, speed, tank and utility.
7. Winmatar at all PVP

How to fit armour anything else:
1. Fit largest guns
2. Fit oversize/extra plates or armour reps
3. Realise you can't fit a tank with your guns
4. Move the guns down a size
5. Fit oversize/extra plates or armour reps
6. Fit DCU, and then whatever ratio of EANM:damage mods you feel like
7. Fit MWD
8. Realise that MWD gets you over the powergrid
9. Move a gun down another size or reduce the size of a plate
10. Fit warp disruptor
11. Realise you're over CPU. Make warp disruptor meta
12. Fit cap booster.
13. Realise you're over powergrid. Downsize the cap booster.
14. Realise you were over CPU as well. Make the DCU meta and replace an EANM with adaptive nano plating
You now have an extremely tight fit, with less dps, tank, speed and utility than a Minmatar counterpart
15. Die terribly for not flying Winmatar.