Jita Park Speakers Corner

Why does the system of "insta-undock" exists? Because - if it did not, and ships would exist stations at 0 speed, exiting a station in low or null would be a lottery. Solutions would be "check local", "ask other people in system" , etc.

Same "solutions" as for traveling through low alone, in a ships that does not have a cov-ops cloak.

Are you wondering why new players end up staying in high-sec, or leaving the game? I saw a post on reddit with an EVE admin, informing a new player - that he's in low-sec and low-sec is dangerous. Nice. But the reality is that every jump for a lone player in low-sec is a lottery. Like I said, imagine undocking with no insta-undock, also the ships undocks at 10km from station. Is that a lottery or what? Well, you could check local and ask people, or - always undock in mass and fight! Sure...

Things change completely when playing with 2 accounts, and I feel the game is pushing people towards playing with 2 or more accounts. Then you can have a scout and EVE is transformed into a totally different game.

How many veteran players have 2 accounts and could not do with only 1? I presume - over 80%.


What I propose - allow players to play with 2 characters. Maybe a new type of subscription, that costs 20$, and allows 2 logins...

Forgot to add - it's a lottery with no chance of winning anything.

Yer not the first person to ask for a 'window' and won't be the last

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I'm in Brave Newbies, and our home station is in Barleguet, low sec. When not in a fleet, I almost feel I have my hands tied, and can't move. No matter the intel, taking a ship bigger than a destroyer out alone - to rat, to do missions - is impossible, any jump through any gate is a game of chance.

Am I willing to take the chance to lose my 50 million cruiser, trying to do a mission, on every gate jump, when I only have 150 million isk total? There is no skill involved, no d-scan, no align, nothing. The map - ships killed does not help. All I need is to get a second account to be able to scout, then the game of chance when traveling disappears.

I invite anyone at CCP to live in low sec as a new character with low isk, they will realize why people stay in high-sec and get bored, when - no matter their skills, they die to gate-camps. If they want anything bigger than a frigate. And this problem is solved - not by more "skillz" just by more $, getting a scout on a second account.

I don't even know where to begin with the inaccuracies in this thread. Lets put this another way, you're part of the biggest lowsec entity that lives in quite possibly the most violent region in low-sec. I'm sorry but what do you expect to be in the surrounding area? You're suggestion that there is no way of dealing with insta locking camps is horribly mistaken too as is saying there is no way of knowing where they are. Piracy has been damaged massively as a playstyle by CCP over the years and its bad enough that people think that it's their right to move safely around what is supposed to be a dangerous part of the game. If you live in low-sec there is a risk attached to travel (not even that big a one if you know what you're doing and CCP is continously making that easier).

Sugar is giving you very good advice about embracing your environment and if you don't like the bullseye that being in BNI and living in placid places on you, then I suggest you move out of the FW zones where you will less often come accross well run camps and gangs ganking you. But if you wish to go down the solo route I assure you no matter where you go you will find frustration, it's a very unrewarding and grueling playstyle, particularly outside of FW frig fights. You'll spend ages berating how lame tactics your opponents are using all for the occasional good fight.

I assure you that veteran players could manage on a budget, with a low sp character and still successfully travel about. The key is experience. Check out the myeve section of the forums and look up a guy called Aldap and his videos, he is a real solo pvper ie no links or scouts who uses cheap ways of engaging small low sec gangs and camps.

Pathetic. A 6000-member corporation and you can't find someone to scout you.

Look, you have to HTFU and figure this out, or get someone in your corp to hold your hand. My corp regularly accepts day-one (or close to it) newbies, and we have little to no problem moving around FW lowsec, even in big ships, despite having 60x fewer members. Here are some solutions to get you started:

• Ask someone in a frigate to scout your big ship (or get an alt if your corp sucks that much). Everyone in a big ship everywhere in lowsec, nullsec, and even in hisec during wars and such, does that. You are no special flower.
• Don't use big ships in lowsec/nullsec without proper reason.
• Use a T2 ship of a smaller class.
• Use a covert ops ship.
• Use the cloak-MWD trick.
• Go to less populated lowsec/nullsec. Hordes of people dying to gate camps causes more gate camps.
• Find a better corp. Preferably one that knows the meaning and value of competence.
• Harden the **** up.

Being in space in lowsec/nullsec will is and should always be dangerous. Intelligence (in all senses of the word), scouting and knowledge are as vital resources to PvP as the guns and afterburner on your ship. If you don't use them, you die. Period.

Ed: I am being more hostile than I would normally be because of the sense of entitlement that going straight to Jita Park with a perfectly solvable (and in fact, quite rudimentary) gameplay problem that would have been far better suited for a polite question in New Citizens Q&A, or your corp chat.