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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-02-20 02:06:55 UTC
I worked up the manufacture cost on a procurer and, well, they sell for ~16M and materials for one is over 21M.

Can someone enlighten me on the economics at work here? I really confused.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#2 - 2014-02-20 02:33:30 UTC
Old Stock, increases in Price of Minerals because I short term shortages of minerals due to but fleet fights and lost Caps/SuperCaps
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-02-20 03:21:15 UTC
Caldari 5 wrote:
Old Stock, increases in Price of Minerals because I short term shortages of minerals due to but fleet fights and lost Caps/SuperCaps


A 5% increase in mineral prices doesn't account for a 32% price difference.

Also the price and manufacture cost was about the same a month ago when I first checked on costs. I just looked at it again today out of curiosity.


I think the real answer is rampant stupidity.
Xurr
Wasted Potential.
#4 - 2014-02-20 03:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Xurr
Arsine Mayhem wrote:

I think the real answer is rampant stupidity.


Yep, it is almost like some people after being told still can't learn.

Like Caldari 5 said it is old stock. See all those materials listed as 'extra'? those weren't there when all those procs were made.
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-02-20 05:13:37 UTC
They used to be supercheap to make, so many people made thousands of them.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#6 - 2014-02-20 05:41:11 UTC
That was back in summer 2012, before barge rebalancing. Since not that many Procurers die, expect this to last for some time (years).

Remove standings and insurance.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-02-20 06:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Back before Inferno 1.2 (think it was that expansion), Procurers (and other barges) cost significantly less to build. People built thousands expecting a large payout once prices increased. For the other two barges, price did increase. For the Procurer not so much because of lower demand.

Same thing with a couple of the battlecruisers, same reason.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2014-02-20 09:02:21 UTC
A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. Roll
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#9 - 2014-02-20 10:52:09 UTC
The procurer /used/ to cost 2 million to make. (Pre, uh, Retribution, iirc)

It now has a build cost of 21 million.

So, someone selling at 16 million is making a 700% profit. Not as nice as a three order of magnitude profit, but it's enough for people to want to cash out. Eventually it'll fill out. Not any time soon.

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Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#10 - 2014-02-20 14:03:46 UTC
Everyone gave all the reasons above for what you see. I personally bought about 20 before the patch and sold them after for less than post patch cost but still made a decent profit.

If you want to make isk on them, buy them all up under cost and relist them. I have a feeling though supply will outstrip demand and you will want to move them for a loss than have all that capital tied up in your hanger. All depends on your business model. Long term it might work.

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-02-20 14:24:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Arsine Mayhem
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
That was back in summer 2012, before barge rebalancing. Since not that many Procurers die, expect this to last for some time (years).


Yea, that was a while back, but would be the most logical answer I think?

Along with all the other comments that is.
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-02-20 21:50:27 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
#13 - 2014-02-21 12:14:45 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. Roll

If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#14 - 2014-02-21 21:09:44 UTC
Traedar wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. Roll

If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name?

I'll direct him to your post, and let him decide to contact you.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#15 - 2014-02-22 04:01:30 UTC
I would also like to purchase some as well :D
Gh0stBust3rs
Templars HIghsec
Stellar Fusion
#16 - 2014-02-22 10:29:24 UTC
Gonna say i dont even mine but being able to pick up 10-20 would be nice @ 8m a pop.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#17 - 2014-02-27 04:42:17 UTC
I acquired thousands of these last year. I forget where I put them, but thanks for the reminder.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Gray Spike
Department of Defence
Get Off My Lawn
#18 - 2014-02-27 06:45:52 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I acquired thousands of these last year. I forget where I put them, but thanks for the reminder.

"acquired"

Poor fella went to bonus round did he?
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-02-28 16:35:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Huttan Funaila
I'd also like to buy them buy the dozen.
Traedar
InterStellar Trading Syndicate
#20 - 2014-03-02 03:09:51 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Traedar wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
A friend is still selling the ones he made for like 8m. He's only got a few thousand of them left to sell. Roll

If you're serious, and your friend is still selling, could you send me the name?

I'll direct him to your post, and let him decide to contact you.


Thanks. I am looking to buy in bulk (1000s of them).
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