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Multiple accounts to play the game now?

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#21 - 2014-02-18 08:00:54 UTC
Fight the bots. Join the New Order.

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Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#22 - 2014-02-18 08:04:53 UTC
to be self reliant you will need multuiple accounts. if your an capital owner you need an alt to make you an cyno.
If you are moving ships around or pvp you will need a scout.

thats how its been for many yeras now
Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#23 - 2014-02-18 08:08:11 UTC
I think the person you encountered (if they were all their alts) is a fairly rare occurrence.

Although most peeps i know have 2 accounts
Victor Andall
#24 - 2014-02-18 08:15:13 UTC
So, OP, I'm trying to figure out your problem.

Is it that one guy with multiple accounts killed you?

Would have you been ok if it were multiple people ganging up on you?

Would this thread be named "Friends required to play the game now?"

Does it really make that much of an impact on you if you face off against a gatecamp of multiple people or a gatecamp of a guy and his alts?

Because it sounds to me like you have a bit more of an edge in the latter scenario since no one can play effectively past a certain number of accounts.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#25 - 2014-02-18 08:35:21 UTC
Maybe they all had their drones assisted to someone, I hear that's a way to make use of many characters effectively.

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Zetadelta333
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2014-02-18 09:12:50 UTC
Nullsec mining def has been nerfed, back in the day all you needed was one belt tank, Now you need all sorts of toons to successfully min in null due to it being nerfed. becuase you know defenseless hulks and macks needing to be scanned down to get killed was so overpowered.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-02-19 11:18:42 UTC
It's an unfortunate side effect of EvEs mechanics. When the game absolutely requires you to group to PvP in anything above cruiser size it means a large proportion of players who don't like grouping either quit or multi box.

It's a failure on CPPs part rather than on the players part. I have my own bomber squad, I have the mandatory scout, prober, market and logistics alts too.

While at first glance that might seem like a bonus for CCP I think it's likely that it tarnishes the reputation of the game, causes people to quit, not sub and decreases everyone's enjoyment of the game but it is what it is.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-02-19 11:20:58 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
I'm still somewhat new to the game. I figured the most people were doing was an alternate account to mine.

When I lost my astero to a cyno alt in an interceptor I figured one guy with two accounts.. Whatever, boosting is OP but whatever. Ill get over it.

Now me and two friends were doing lowsec sites, and a guy I knew to be a boost alt jumped in.. I knew exactly who would follow as i've seen this exact guy do it before. I've also seen his corp gate camping but non of them have caught me yet. So then an azaru jumps in, the frigate we have jumps out and I start doing logi on our battlecruiser, but then it cynos in two black ops battleships. They neut me once then stop I dunno why. They drone me untill I warp out and I come back in just enough time to get 3 cycles on my overheated reps before he dies.

Now later someone mentions to me this guy has a crap ton of alts, and will multibox to kill your pos. So wait a second, those two in black ops who also gate camp are probalby just his alts? Do we now need multiple accounts to win at the game? I was already having trouble winning pvp's vs one person, but I now find out they can just warp a crapload of their own accounts down on me to blow me up. If it was just this one guy, he wouldn't just jump one unboosted black ops on an exequror, a prophecy and a vengeance would he?

My buddy wondered how I got out with all that tackle going on. I guess it make sense if it was just one guy he wouldn't be able to multitask to the point of catching multiple people, all he did was assign his drones to shoot at me in the first place.

This doesn't even cover the person with 20+ alts warping into an ice belt the other day, they all turned on at the exact same time. He admitted to multiboxing when I asked. Different person though.

So how is this even fair? I had friends, this guy who usually had a boost alt and one ship just logged onto more accounts to deal with more people? How does one compete against this? I don't have the money to spend 300+$ a month, nor the computer power to mine the plex's on that many accounts. Maybe this is why plex's are going up as well, and unless I join goonswarm or something it seems i'm doomed to be dropped on by alt accounts with no possible way to do anything except run away if i'm not caught.

At least the guy I spoke too said to contact him if I ever needed help, because hes apparently a prick as well. He didn't even respond to my buddy saying GF. I don't see how he would help though, as it took half the day of flying around before this dude showed up. Now he sits in highsec again in a station on one of his accounts.


you have 2 options.. have friends .. or have alts. If you have good and efficient tem mates you do not need alts. But alts still make life easier.

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2014-02-19 14:27:07 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
I'm still somewhat new to the game. I figured the most people were doing was an alternate account to mine.



Mining scales well, so running multiple mining ships at once can make you good money.

But mining isn't why most people who have more than one account have them. There are lots of other reasons to have multiple accounts, most of which are more profitable than mining (and indeed Science & Industry alts combine quite well with mining if you want to go to that much trouble).

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#30 - 2014-02-19 14:30:16 UTC
Zetadelta333 wrote:
Nullsec mining def has been nerfed, back in the day all you needed was one belt tank, Now you need all sorts of toons to successfully min in null due to it being nerfed. becuase you know defenseless hulks and macks needing to be scanned down to get killed was so overpowered.


On the other hand, lo-sec and nullsec ores got a big buff.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Le Ngoc Han
Aegis Eidolon
#31 - 2014-02-19 14:46:07 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Welcome to eve.

It's sort of "pay to win".

More accounts, more prizes!

If you want maximum "prizes", start a website that pokes fun at old people, poor people and hey anyone different. Then bring them all to eve to "create content" *SNORK*

But yah don't PVP solo if you don't want to die to a small fleet of 30 n00b ships and end up on eve news 24



What MMO is not pay to win?
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-02-19 15:29:12 UTC
Sounds to me like you've discovered an incredibly easy way to get two free blackops BS kills.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#33 - 2014-02-19 15:58:34 UTC
Friends are better than alts. Get some friends, and you'll beat his alts any day. You had a logi and BC and were both outnumbered and outgunned, so the use if isboxer is incidental here.

Also, lots of social people play with isboxer, its not exclusively a lone wolf thing.

Isboxer does not make you a better player, and it can very easily make you a worse one.

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#34 - 2014-02-19 17:05:16 UTC
If you're getting killed by multiple characters, what's the difference if they are each controlled by an individual vs. them all being controlled by one individual? The situation wouldn't have ended any differently, you still would have died to that same number of characters.
Lucie Devlin
Bloodfriends
#35 - 2014-02-19 18:11:25 UTC
I manage to have fun without needing to long into more than one account, and I am really bad at this game so I'm sure the rest of you can manage without.
Sniper Wolf18
Aggressive Diplomacy
#36 - 2014-02-19 20:53:16 UTC
Having been on a three year hiatus I've found that now more than ever having an alt is all but required to make you a successful pvper, which is great for CCP but irritating for those of us without loads of money.
However multiboxing PvP should be rather easy to counter, damp some multiboxers with scan res scripts and they will activate modules on the wrong ship due to delayed targeting, jam the others, harass them in every way possible so they get frustrated and make more mistakes, continue with this and you will get expensive multiboxer kills. Since you know who they are you can catch his boost alt before the fight starts, or make him dock for the durarion at least.
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-02-19 21:14:37 UTC
Hal Morsh wrote:
So how is this even fair?
Stopped reading there. Playing EVE and using the word "fair" is just crap. Life isn't fair.
I got more money than you, I can have more stuff. Bigger House, better car(s), 6 EVE accounts. Tough Luck...
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#38 - 2014-02-19 21:20:43 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Hal Morsh wrote:
So how is this even fair?
Stopped reading there. Playing EVE and using the word "fair" is just crap. Life isn't fair.
I got more money than you, I can have more stuff. Bigger House, better car(s), 6 EVE accounts. Tough Luck...


Couldn't have said it better myself. All I hear is "WWAAAAAAHHHHHH" when people complain about something not being fair. HTFU and deal with it.
Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-02-20 00:02:15 UTC
It's been Alts-Online for years. Ever since the genius that was the cyno coupled with "power of 2" deals.

CCP knows it sucks, but they can't help themselves.

-People who are so terrible they can't compete against real players without cheating,,
-People who don't play the game to play the game, but play the game as their job (sometimes unwillingly)
-CCP's wallet

These are the people that enjoy and benefit from Alts-Online.

Nothing you can do about it except know that you are inherently a superior human being. Capable of accepting a challenge, working with teammates as intended and playing the game instead of exploiting it.

There will always be those so lost and without integrity they will fight scream and insist multiboxing isn't lame and tantamount to cheating.

You can easily identify these people;
the hole in their persona is not able to be filled,

and that same emptiness that drives them to have to WORK at a GAME they neither understand nor actually enjoy is the same emptiness that will drive them to the forums and insist they are as good and as skilled as you.

Even more so,
I mean,
the guy has 20 accounts... how much further from "loser" can you get?
Lol

"The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain."
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#40 - 2014-02-20 00:31:23 UTC
I have 4 accounts, 3 active, I multibox all the time, as each has a different task they can do. Used to mine with a hauler alt, and a pve alt to kill rats. it makes it easyer f you don't have anyone on to help out with stuff, and te alts have cyno alts, and a holding corp alt.

Tried a multi box program but could get get it to coordinate correctly so I ditched it

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