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Vargur Income running Level 4s without blitzing (Rubicon 1.1)
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Polo Hamabu
Mostly Cap Stable
Sigma Grindset
#41 - 2014-02-18 11:21:31 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Novah Soul wrote:
Interesting thread. Would it be a fair assumption to think the other three marauders would perform on a comparable level?



If you are in the correct agent, Paladin can blow that out of water effortlessly.


Not that I disagree, but can I enquire as to why it would be so much better than a Vargur? :)
Heavensend
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2014-02-18 15:15:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Heavensend
I´ve flown both in missions in Amarr space.
Assumed enemies are sensibel to EM/Therm Paladin with Pulse - Conflag will out DPS Vargur at alle ships larger/equal to BC size.

1350dps with Conflag up to 32km still doing 1200dps at 40km cant be beaten by a vargur.
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#43 - 2014-02-19 10:44:09 UTC
its true in amarr space a paladin will handily outdo a vargur.

in angel space however the vargur should be on par or better in most missions. especially when those angel cruisers and bs start orbiting at 2km.

also barrage, while not nearly as good as scorch is pretty good for long range shots. took me only a day to get the standings to move over to minmatar lv4s from amarr.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#44 - 2014-02-20 21:29:10 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.
stoicfaux
#45 - 2014-04-05 02:33:47 UTC
Couple of minor updates. I've added the 45% loot nerf (rows 116 through 128) and I've adjusted the LP to Security Connections V. (The data was with IV.)

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
chaosgrimm
Synth Tech
#46 - 2014-04-05 05:31:55 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

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Update: You can still make a nice income without blitzing for LP to the point that I have to wonder if blitzing for LP is still "better."

Very nice spreadsheet. Loot vs blitz is in a good spot right now. Players can choose to blitz or choose to loot and not see a drastic difference. Unfortunately, it looks like CCPs reprocessing nerf will make blitzing the clear winner.
Vinyl 41
AdVictis
#47 - 2014-04-05 05:39:28 UTC
chaosgrimm wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:

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Update: You can still make a nice income without blitzing for LP to the point that I have to wonder if blitzing for LP is still "better."

Very nice spreadsheet. Loot vs blitz is in a good spot right now. Players can choose to blitz or choose to loot and not see a drastic difference. Unfortunately, it looks like CCPs reprocessing nerf will make blitzing the clear winner.

i did observer that with the current high demand on meta 4 stuff salvaging missions became pretty profitable - noctis users rejoice
stoicfaux
#48 - 2014-04-05 11:30:47 UTC
chaosgrimm wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:

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Update: You can still make a nice income without blitzing for LP to the point that I have to wonder if blitzing for LP is still "better."

Very nice spreadsheet. Loot vs blitz is in a good spot right now. Players can choose to blitz or choose to loot and not see a drastic difference. Unfortunately, it looks like CCPs reprocessing nerf will make blitzing the clear winner.

Even with the reprocessing nerf, looting looks to be competitive.

Blitzing numbers: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334784&find=unread



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-04-05 22:25:10 UTC
So I'm curious. When it comes to loot are you just cherry picking loot with your tractors and salvage drones? Do you drop a MTU?

I have generally found just Cherry picking wrecks is a good compromise vs wasting time looting everything after the rats all die.
stoicfaux
#50 - 2014-04-05 22:35:11 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
So I'm curious. When it comes to loot are you just cherry picking loot with your tractors and salvage drones? Do you drop a MTU?

I drop an MTU and will tractor in wrecks (3x tractor IIs) for the salvage drones to work on. The only cherry picking I do is to prioritize battleship wrecks for tractoring first.

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I have generally found just Cherry picking wrecks is a good compromise vs wasting time looting everything after the rats all die.

Once the NPCs were dead, I left. I did not stick around to loot everything. Even so, IIRC, Mordus Headhunters was the only mission in which I left a lot of wrecks with loot on the field; enough that I was considering leaving an MTU and coming back later for the loot.



Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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