EVE General Discussion

In all seriousness though... I don't buy the crap that there's a huge advantage that is insurmountable. I mean... sure, I'm gonna get my a#$ handed to me plenty in these early days.... but there's a time quickly approaching where skill and common sense will do much to close the gap of sp and equipment.

I've been running with a corp that's showing me the ropes, helping me with fits, and getting me some action where I can bumble f*** my way through things without much of an impact. The learning is moving at an exponential rate.

Yer buds need to take their riddlin and start practicing their hotkeys, practice free flying vs. auto orbit, study up on ship types, study up on the ins and outs of fitting, get their overviews sorted, learn directional scanning... all of which is gonna require them to stop changing clothing in the pilot's lounge.

It's freaking exhilarating as it starts to come together. And I for one can not WAIT to pop my first vet who looks at my rig and gets lazy or stupid 'cuz he thinks I'm just bumbling around in some sort of roflcopter. And after I get my first one... I'm gonna want moar...

Fairly sure both EVEuni and brave newbies have been exposed a lot... Both are in my opinion the good guys a we definately owe both a lot of respect for the amount of players they have gotten hooked on this game.

1'000 * 15 = 15'000
100 * 100 = 10'000

I'd take a).

I started playing in late september last year. I was not scared away. I delved into several aspects of this game. I currently have a combat pilot and a station trader alt. I disagree that vets are necessarily a lot more advantaged. Training Dreadnaughts V does not make you privileged as a player. In fact my impression so far is that the most used and most effective ships in the game are the smallest class of ships which don't require billions of ISK or skillpoints to fly decently.

My impression is that as long as you're willing to lose and willing to get back into the game after losing your first 70mil battlecruiser and not just ragequit the game is more than accommodating for any style of play.

And I don't know what article you read on CCP resorting to gimmicks such as the NEX store to increase revenue but I doubt it was a recent one. As long as you take the mandatory deep breath between creating an account and logging in, you'll be fine.

I miss numbers in threads like these. So I'm gonna use the numbers as I've seen them develop with my own eyes.

2007: 34K online primetime
2014: 51K online primetime

Not every game will attract every player.

There is no such thing as avarage skill points ... I may have 125 mill sp ... but if you an I meet in a frig fight all I have is 120 mill sp that is useless at that point in time.


At the poster that seems to have a gripe about "high sec soloer" etc etc.

Please don't group this guy with those guys I am one of those guys for reasons (career and+ 1.5 year old=no time) The OP is just a ***** and moaner, and those exists in all sec's of eve.

We're generating content for you.

You should be paying us.

If enough frigs are coming your way a good old discophoon would surely fit quite well to listening to that music :)

Well lets see -

What would you say if you saw an advertisement for EVE that went something like this:

EVE Online - Do you want to joined 500,000 other players in a single shard persistent world where skill's are time based rather than accumulative. Some of the features of EVE include:

* Starting off with 55,000 skillpoints vs players like Infinity Ziona, a 2003 character, who might have in excess of 200,000,000.
* Get ganked repeatedly by players in game in even the safest parts of EVE by the numerous alts of Goonswarm and other alliances.
* Get scammed both in game and out of game by experienced players while the developers applaud the scammer's for emergent gameplay.
* Build an alliance and have it disbanded by alts and spies on out of game forums rather than in game mechanics.
* Want to take some space, well you can't do that, however you can rent some from Goonswarm and other alliances if you really must have some.
* If you're alliance doesn't get disbanded, enjoy taking on the 37,000 players in Goonswarm. Why Goonswarm you ask? Well because they pretty much own all of player conquerable and valuable space in the game. You will be crushed but I'm sure you'll have lots of fun.
* Pilot an immense freighter capable of transporting huge amounts of cargo but remember, don't put huge amounts of cargo in it or alts of alliances will blow it up, even in the safest space in EVE.
* Enjoy broken mechanics that will never be fixed, enjoy training up skills for months or even years and then having the developers arbitrarily change the game so all the training you did becomes pointless. Skillpoint reallocation policies? Are you crazy.
* Become a member of the CSM and represent the community of EVE online but only if you can get the 37k x 3 votes to beat the current alliance domination of the CSM and the development of EVE.
* PVE - we have tons, do Worlds Collides and Angel Extravaganza over and over and over and .... again... Expect to get ganked if you put anything other than T2 mods on your ships. Why do they exist? They're for Goonswarm and the other alliances to use I guess. I have no clue... just don't put them on your ship.


I could go on forever. This is not a newbie friendly game. Its horribly imbalanced. Its unnecessarily brutal to new players and most of that brutality comes from rich experienced players enjoying blowing up some newbs brand new mining barge and making them quit. The game can be summed up nicely by what happened with NC. and that guy that had cancer. Very pathetic.

Why would anyone join to be honest? Its not the EVE that CCP developed in 2003.