EVE General Discussion

I haven't really seen any recent threads so I decided to point this out. I also needed to occupy myself while mining, and since I was going to do this anyways I figured the forums should know for anyone who hasn't thought about it.

Mining yield is pretty good if you think about it.

Just in my retriever with "some" skills I can get a little over 3k M3 in ore every 3 minutes, now while people can definately make over 500k isk per cycle I'm just going to use that as a base number here and do the math for you.

(My math is probably very inefficient but I know it's correct)

500,000 / 3 = 166,666 This is to bring the number down to per minute.
166,666 X 60 = 9,999,960 So I pretty much make 10 mill an hour without boosts or maxed skills.
10,000,000 X 24 = 240,000,000 A day if you mined the full 24 hours. I rounded to 10 mill.

What are plex's worth now, 650 mill? So that would be 65 hours total of mining To earn one plex. So around 2 and a half days lets say as I don't have max skills to compare to.

30 days in a month divided by 2.5 = 12 plex's in total per month. So how much are these people multiboxing and botting making? It's got to be huge, but who is ever on the full 24 hours. Let alone with down times. So lets say 10 plex's for the hell of it.

I saw a guy with 20 accounts. So that is 100 plexes or 65 billion a month with my skills if I had 20 exact clones of my account botting. Or 3.25 billion for one person Quite high indeed, and even in realistic amounts of time it's still easily achievable to plex the accounts and profit, in turn driving up the prices even more due to even higher demand. You are only limited by the amount of ores available really. Of course this wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for bots. Although the only one true bot I met in game has been robbed of his ore many times and had a few ships destroyed, so there is a way of course to combat them and profit meanwhile..


I know that people do use mining as a semi afk activity like I do, to do other things while still earning some isk in game for when they can actually pay attention. It also helps the corp in my case.

Also sleep.

And the Order.

Well you can do whatever you want with the ore afterwords on another account, get more out of refining on yet another account. Maybe manufacture. Or just go sell to the market, sometimes buy prices will be above estimate in hubs for some items.

Just make sure you're Code compliant.

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

2 1/2 days for a PLEX (not including the time to haul the minerals back to station, etc. - that's just sitting at the rocks). That's a pretty low income rate.

Better just to buy GTC and actually have fun rather than slog away to earn only enough ISK to continue slogging away in the hope of earning enough to sell to someone else.

Asteroid fields etc. get mined out, valuable ores go first, you have to move systems creating more hauling, etc... Not all that attractive really, at least in my view, preferring interaction with players over isolated individual play.

So hey, while we're sort of on the topic, could someone shed some light on a topic for me?

I get the disdain for mining. I really do. I did it during the tutorials and found it to be absolutely soul crushing. But it works for some so whatever.

What I don't get is the general disdain for miners. I see a lot of posts among the lines of "you're playing EVE wrong" and whatnot and I don't understand the sentiment. Sure, it's a boring profession but it's literally what fuels every single other profession out there.

I'd love to see all the pvp'ers and whatnot take extended breaks from ganking and gatecamping so they can mine for a new Dramiel because no one does it full time for them.

If you are not playing the game their way, you are doing it wrong no matter what your way is. Get used to it because it's all over the forum no matter what you do in the sandbox.

I do group activities, like mining with an orca!!

kidding..

But yeah I enjoy doing other things. If it's weird that I like being logi.

Well really miners get ganked because if someone wants to kill something, they know they can go to a 0.5 system with a destroyer and kill a stationary target that's mining pretty easily. Probably with the hopes of some funny conversation afterwords.

As for why haulers get ganked?? Well..

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27565937.jpg

The actual killmail is pretty ********.

Yeah I was referring to the forum too, but I see your point and agree with it.

But it's the internet and we are all the most attractive person on this Earth, the most intelligent and clearly the most successful. As a result, each of us has every right to look down upon everyone else, because only we speak the truth and everyone else is plainly wrong - at least, when we are anonymous and behind a keyboard.