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Stunning historical facts: "EVOLUTIONS"

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Bata Kylarro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-02-17 13:02:19 UTC
Know your history: many hundreds of years ago on Earth (Milky Way Galaxy) where our ancestors originated from, a News Channel "USA Today" reported on February 15th, 2014 about the results of a poll/research held by the National Science Foundation, exact article as follows:
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1 in 4 Americans doesn't know Earth circles sun

To put the brightest possible spin on this story is to say that three-quarters of Americans are fully aware that the Earth revolves around the sun.

The downside, of course, is that means 1 in 4 are in the dark about what Discovery calls "probably the most basic question in science."

The National Science Foundation asked that question of 2,200 Americans, with the average score on the quiz coming in at 6.5, reports Phys.org.

The poll was conducted in 2012, but the results were released Friday at a conference.
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(No wonder that these poll results were kept away for a full year.....Lol)

Anyway, back to our history: the above poll was one of the main reasons for mankind to decide to instruct the combined forces of the Russian Space Agency, NASA, Chinese Space Agency and ESA "to fully gear up" their activities looking for any other distant inhabitable Galaxies, which eventually resulted in the vast Exodus of our ancestors to New Eden. (..... enabling them to leave behind 25% of the US population on purpose, for obvious reasons, of course....Big smile)
stoicfaux
#2 - 2014-02-17 15:43:52 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
http://doubtfulnews.com/2014/02/do-one-in-four-americans-really-not-believe-earth-revolves-around-sun/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=do-one-in-four-americans-really-not-believe-earth-revolves-around-sun

It was worse for the Europeans with one in three giving the wrong answer.

United States (2012) 74%
EU (2005) 66%
India (2004) 70%
Malaysia (2008) 72%
South Korea (2004) 86%


edit: don't change sentence fragments mid-stream.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-17 17:04:02 UTC
What is the representation of people choosing 'none of the above' in each country? This quiz is inherently flawed, as it assumes a correct answer to a question that is not a matter of fact, but rather one of combined opinion and scientific theory. It is therefore not a boolean function, and it would be more accurate to give several possible answers or even allow them to answer freestyle, and score test takers by how correct their answer is.


My answer to the question would be that the Sun and Earth fall toward each other going forward in the time dimension semiparallel to the three primary spacial dimensions, yet move somewhat diagonally through the spacial dimensions in such a formation as to cause an oscillation which prevents them from becoming significantly more or less distant from one another.

Other good answers I have heard:
1.) they both orbit each other
2.) they are falling through time in a circular fashion
3.) the Earth orbits the Sun more than the Sun orbits the Earth

Some okay answers I have heard:
1.) the Earth and Sun are stationary relative to each other, and everything else is moving around them
2.) the Sun orbits Sagittarius A*, and its gravity pulls the Earth along with it
3.) the Earth and other planets orbit the stationary Sun

Bad answers I have heard:
1.) the Sun goes through the sky in the day and through the Earth at night
2.) the Sun and celestial sphere rotate around the Earth
3.) the Sun God rides a chariot through the sky on most days, but sometimes doesn't as is written in historical texts

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Eranicus II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-02-17 17:50:31 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
What is the representation of people choosing 'none of the above' in each country? This quiz is inherently flawed, as it assumes a correct answer to a question that is not a matter of fact, but rather one of combined opinion and scientific theory. It is therefore not a boolean function, and it would be more accurate to give several possible answers or even allow them to answer freestyle, and score test takers by how correct their answer is.


My answer to the question would be that the Sun and Earth fall toward each other going forward in the time dimension semiparallel to the three primary spacial dimensions, yet move somewhat diagonally through the spacial dimensions in such a formation as to cause an oscillation which prevents them from becoming significantly more or less distant from one another.


It has ben proven cientifically that the earth orbits around it parent star, the same as the rest of the planets, there is no theory on this matter at all, the sun will never orbit us unless you can prove that the sun at some point is closer to mars and we suddenly are closer to the sun than mercury, which wont happen or we would be roasted extra crispy.

You could also argue that the sun orbits the whole solar system, then again earth would be so far from the sun the whole planet would be an icycle until the sun came around 200+ year later NOT feasible.

For your answer, all you did is use fancy words to explain our orbit around the sun, using parallel universes and dimensional theories.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-02-17 18:25:25 UTC
Eranicus II wrote:
For your answer, all you did is use fancy words to explain our orbit around the sun, using parallel universes and dimensional theories.

You had better double-check your facts, homie. What I said is true. Your response to mine was mostly true-ish but lacking in clarification, though you make some assumptions that would require some verification before I'd be willing to believe them.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#6 - 2014-02-17 18:54:29 UTC
Posting in a stealth Anti-Science Thread.

Back to the Pulpit (literally) OP. You know where you really belong.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#7 - 2014-02-17 22:04:26 UTC
Someone correct me If I am wrong, but doesnt the sun and the whole solar system MOVES alongside the whole Galaxy and many others as the Universe is expanding through the "stuff" that lies between them?

I mean everything is in motion ALL THE TIME?

Or I am just deluded/misinformed?

As I understand, The Earth Orbiting the sun is like saying a Car that goes 300khm hour in an open road in a specific direction has pistons that regularly go up and down in the engine, regardless of what is happening outside.

I´d rather believe the whole car is moving towards the horizon over a road that belongs to a landsmass that comprises a big ball of rock that rotates yet moves in orbit to a sun in an elliptical pattern, part of solar system in a sector of the galaxy that moves spiral like in a determined direction ... and OMG MY HEAD Cry

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-02-18 01:44:08 UTC
Yeah you could say that. Saying that the Earth moves around the Sun is really just an ultra-simplified version of what really happens.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-02-18 12:03:23 UTC
pfft, everyone knows everything revolves around me!
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#10 - 2014-02-18 12:52:36 UTC
Nonsense like this is exactly why Popular Science has discontinued their Comments posting completely.

It's an obfuscating viewpoint and rhetorical facade that deserves not to be heard, even in the interest of contrasting opinion.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#11 - 2014-02-18 13:33:57 UTC
I would also hazard that many people would look at the harvest moon and think it is actually shrinking in size (as it has to do with the diameter getting smaller) as the night progresses and the moon 'rises' further from the horizon.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-02-18 14:00:41 UTC
last I heard, the solar wind blasts 600 tonnes of moon material off its surface on a daily basis

so not only will it visually shrink in size as it moves away from the earth, it physically gets a tiny bit smaller too.
Sturmwolke
#13 - 2014-02-18 14:02:41 UTC
The survey doesn't make complete sense, imo. Even elementary kids know about planets and stars - which is I assume, is pretty universal for at least first world and developing countries.
Then you have materials in all manner of forms (from educational book, news articles, movies, animes, novels etc. etc. etc.) which is almost ubiquitous in describing the planets and stars. If people don't even have a clue after being exposed to all of that, wtf?

Examine how the questions are phrased i.e "Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth?" ... as opposed to a Yes/No with more clarity, for example "Does the Earth revolve around the Sun?"). It's not impossible to rule reading comprehension as a hidden factor - especially when the question is phrased in a tricky form. It is entirely plausible that countries with low scores demonstrates a rising issue with an aspect of literacy, rather than general science knowledge per se.

tl;dr : There are many ways to mess around with survey questions to influence the direction of survey to what the originator wants.

Bata Kylarro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-02-18 14:13:45 UTC
Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
pfft, everyone knows everything revolves around me!


Big smile...who knows...anyway, it even could be mostly due to the ever changing perceptions we undergo in "the game of life"...by some called the endless matrix... does make one wonder whether the parallel universes also spin around each other... and say, for instance, Prof. Stephen Hawking representing an 85 points IQ athlete, 10 times olympic gold medal winner swimming categories, in a parallel universe anno the year 2014...who knows.... anyway, does make me remember this song:....spin my head right round, right round, right round, right round...

"Flo Rida ft Ke$ha -You Spin My Head Right Round" (YT)


Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2014-02-18 15:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Sturmwolke wrote:
The survey doesn't make complete sense, imo. Even elementary kids know about planets and stars - which is I assume, is pretty universal for at least first world and developing countries.


Especially here in America, where education budgets have been slashed to nothing at all, there has been a huge incentive for parents to use "vouchers" for private school education.

What this interprets as, is a huge move of kids onto private religious schools over the past decade.

They do not teach science....as we know it. They teach things such as the "fact" that dinosaurs were so recent that Jesus walked with them.

But, we have freedom of speech, so they can "teach" anything they want really, no matter how absurd. It's all God's Truth to them, and scientists are just being tricked and blinded by Satan.

This is what these whackos believe and are teaching their children. It's pathetic and sad.

But there are about 10 more reasons why this ignorance is going on, but there isn't time for them all here.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#16 - 2014-02-18 15:25:29 UTC
Bata Kylarro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-02-18 16:54:18 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Posting in a stealth Anti-Science Thread.

Back to the Pulpit (literally) OP. You know where you really belong.


StraightNahhhh, you're obviously totally out of your orbit there stating such: this thread is realy a 100% full scientifically meant & based/documented

(...though, it requires at least an IQ of a sound 120 points above zero to being able to recognize it as realy being such, so...I do not realy blame you for it(!)...my advice: drink your tap water without the added Sodium Fluoride, this often does the trick, you will see (=also scientifically proven), trust me on this....Smile)
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#18 - 2014-02-18 18:09:30 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
The survey doesn't make complete sense, imo. Even elementary kids know about planets and stars - which is I assume, is pretty universal for at least first world and developing countries.


Especially here in America, where education budgets have been slashed to nothing at all, there has been a huge incentive for parents to use "vouchers" for private school education.

What this interprets as, is a huge move of kids onto private religious schools over the past decade.

They do not teach science....as we know it. They teach things such as the "fact" that dinosaurs were so recent that Jesus walked with them.

But, we have freedom of speech, so they can "teach" anything they want really, no matter how absurd. It's all God's Truth to them, and scientists are just being tricked and blinded by Satan.

This is what these whackos believe and are teaching their children. It's pathetic and sad.

But there are about 10 more reasons why this ignorance is going on, but there isn't time for them all here.



ahhh kixxy ...there is actually a scientific school of thought that suggest that it is quite possible that the tooth fairy actually did walk with dinosours and that most of us eat them every day in one form or another ...they are called chickens . so I personally am not convinced that ALL of the dinosaurs did actually die out theres plenty of evidence to prove it ..hell my wife even keeps one in our living room its a bloody tortoise called .. wait for it ......cedric OopsRollUghCryRoll
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-02-18 18:10:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
last I heard, the solar wind blasts 600 tonnes of moon material off its surface on a daily basis

so not only will it visually shrink in size as it moves away from the earth, it physically gets a tiny bit smaller too.


As for your claim above I find nothing to support your statement in a quick cursory bit of research.


orly

[edit]
it is a report that's a few years old ...
so I didn't recall the exact specifics, so sue me for being old & forgetful.

but my cursory re-research into this took maybe 15 seconds ......

google is your friend.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-02-19 04:44:04 UTC
Slade Trillgon:
slightly off topic post there but I must say this to you:

You regolith, man! You regolith and rotate!

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

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