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N3, Do they need saving?

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Leor Duku
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-02-17 12:53:45 UTC
So, it seems N3 are in a bit of a sticky situation.

Do they need saving?

And will any step up to the mark to save them?

All the current news, articles, speculations etc point to this being the end.

Will there be some last minute saving armada, diving in the fray and attacking and bringing N3 the much deserved salvation they need after fighting for so long and hard.

Will they become another name, another Band of Brothers, never forgotten but seemingly never to rise and fight again.

Nulli, you're in a sticky situation. I cannot wait to see how this all unravels.

Is the end nigh? Or will they live to fight another day, fighting once more to purge the galaxy of the CFC infestation that has arisen.

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-02-17 14:00:20 UTC
cannot help here....

Only can say that i can't care about this 0.0 party at all..... And i think 90% of Eve players don't care too.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#3 - 2014-02-17 16:33:29 UTC
Eve is a video game. In my experience the number of people that want the warm fuzzies of winning greatly outnumber those who want to face a true challenge. And even in the case of the latter - most people won't struggle six months to a year for a game. You are NOT going to see people rush to the rescue in Eve. You WILL see people dog-piling onto the losing team though.

On top of that, dullsec has serious and well-documented issues. Risk vs. Reward. Supercaps online. Power projection that is too easy. And on and on and on.

Lastly, dullsec isn't for everyone. You will spend hours in fleets while the FC's and commanders maneuver. While massive battles are a draw, if you have any kind of life outside of Eve - 4-8 hour operations are going to drive you insane. I like low sec because if real life intrudes I can get off rather quickly.
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-02-17 17:37:31 UTC
One of the articles I read said that they have been hellcamped and kicked out of their space no less than 3 times in the last year. I think they probably have a procedure for this by now.

Frankly though - I dont care. Nullsec logistic deployments/retreats like this were the thing that made me quit EVE twice. I suppose some people have the IRL time to deal with it, but I dont. Its a massive time and isk sink created by CCP to fatten their wallets (if the stories are true, n3 is going to have trillions of isk locked into this station basically forever. It wont be destroyed, but effectively so. More plex sales for CCP!). I certainly dont blame them for doing so because some people will put up with it. But I wont participate in it anymore.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#5 - 2014-02-17 20:22:00 UTC
CAOD is that way --->

I care not for your 0.0 nonsense
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#6 - 2014-02-17 21:48:41 UTC
Hrett wrote:
Its a massive time and isk sink created by CCP to fatten their wallets (if the stories are true, n3 is going to have trillions of isk locked into this station basically forever. u It wont be destroyed, but effectively so.



Thats a stuff sink, not an isk sink. But regardless, if the blue donut is as bad as everyone says, then getting docking rights shouldn't really be that hard, especially for PL spymasters. Not trying to downplay the loss, but I don't find "basically forever" very credible.

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-02-17 21:59:22 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Hrett wrote:
Its a massive time and isk sink created by CCP to fatten their wallets (if the stories are true, n3 is going to have trillions of isk locked into this station basically forever. u It wont be destroyed, but effectively so.



Thats a stuff sink, not an isk sink. But regardless, if the blue donut is as bad as everyone says, then getting docking rights shouldn't really be that hard, especially for PL spymasters. Not trying to downplay the loss, but I don't find "basically forever" very credible.


Stuff = isk. If you cant use your stuff - even for a limited amount of time - you must buy new stuff, and that takes isk. Im not completely up on the mechanics, but they claimed the station would be transferred to a holding corp that would allow docking rights to zero people. Spymasters need not apply. The one chance they will have to remove stuff would be for everyone to use a jump clone and attempt a mass breakout all at once. But whatever you cant fly out on that single trip will be stuck in station until it is recaptured by someone else (that is friendly to N3)

And to be clear - I dont think there is a problem with stations being captured or stuff ransomed, etc. I was just speaking about logistical needs in general. Its really unique to EVE and is part of what makes it so cool. But it is also a giant pain in the ass. I dont have trouble with it for other people. I just dont like it for myself. :)

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#8 - 2014-02-17 22:14:04 UTC
Batelle wrote:


Thats a stuff sink, not an isk sink.




How did they get the stuff without spending some isk?

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-02-18 16:19:54 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Thats a stuff sink, not an isk sink.

this is for global Eve Online economy

IbanezLaney wrote:
How did they get the stuff without spending some isk?

this is for regular player

There is no conflicts here

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#10 - 2014-02-19 11:09:12 UTC
What is N3?
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#11 - 2014-02-19 11:10:26 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
What is N3?


Some adolescents who need help shaving, apparently.
Rahelis
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-02-19 12:39:01 UTC
Destroy all null sec and make it what it really is: high sec.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#13 - 2014-02-19 13:23:42 UTC
Nah you just need to remove cloaking, it'll solve all the problems null ever had.

srs
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-02-20 11:51:27 UTC
Hrett wrote:
Its a massive time and isk sink created by CCP to fatten their wallets (if the stories are true, n3 is going to have trillions of isk locked into this station basically forever. It wont be destroyed, but effectively so. More plex sales for CCP!).

Really?

Next time I lose an expensive ship I should petition it. The only reason it died is, CCP wants me to buy PLEX!
Next time someone loses a shiny ship to a fleet of derptrons, he will petition it. It obviously didnt die to his stupidity, its all CCPs fault.
I bet Marmite Collective is full of devs, too. They only wardec and kill all those freighters so they sell more PLEX!

Oh, and I should invest more into tinfoil. It´s selling really well these days.

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

Leor Duku
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-02-20 12:47:41 UTC
Seems somewhat like the thread has derailed into a CCP Conspiracy theory. I like it.


Anyway: Attempted Breakout - Failed.

oh and can someone pass me a foil hat?
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-02-20 13:58:28 UTC
I can sell you a couple, guaranteed 0.01 ISK cheaper than all other offers.

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-02-20 20:15:36 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-02-21 13:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
lol.

Who is coming to rescue them ?
Test Caracals :D

its their own fault in the first place.
This would have not happened if they were smart enough not to mess with us(CFC)

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-02-21 15:49:21 UTC
Charlie Firpol wrote:
Hrett wrote:
Its a massive time and isk sink created by CCP to fatten their wallets (if the stories are true, n3 is going to have trillions of isk locked into this station basically forever. It wont be destroyed, but effectively so. More plex sales for CCP!).

Really?

Next time I lose an expensive ship I should petition it. The only reason it died is, CCP wants me to buy PLEX!
Next time someone loses a shiny ship to a fleet of derptrons, he will petition it. It obviously didnt die to his stupidity, its all CCPs fault.
I bet Marmite Collective is full of devs, too. They only wardec and kill all those freighters so they sell more PLEX!

Oh, and I should invest more into tinfoil. It´s selling really well these days.


I have plenty of tinfoil already. I don't need more thank you.

Regardless, their breakout failed. Isk trapped. Ships effectively destroyed (at least for the time being). All due to N3 getting head faked. It's their fault. All I was saying is the amount of logistics involved in these things is staggering. I've been involved in two similar situations in null (on the receiving end). As I said in my later post, I don't have a problem with the mechanic, per se. I just choose not to participate in such things anymore because it bores me to tears. I never said it was CCPs fault. But they do benefit greatly from the mechanic. I don't blame them for doing so.

It'd be nice to know how much Isk was trapped so we could compare it to the actual big battles. I don't suspect N3 will be disclosing that though.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-02-21 15:50:13 UTC
Luwc wrote:
lol.

Who is coming to rescue them ?
Test Caracals :D

its their own fault in the first place.
This would have not happened if they were smart enough not to mess with us(CFC)

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U really understand a lot bout 0.0 politics huh? Considering they attacked Rus not CFC, and CFC jumped into it, maybe you should shut up, because your alliance only have space because you are pets of the real force on CFC.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

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