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Bucking Firds
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-02-17 21:36:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Bucking Firds
Can somebody put this into laymans terms ?


Quote:
Kill right on you made available
From: CONCORD
Sent: XXX.XXXX.XXXX.XXXX

The kill right XXXXXX has on you has been made available to all for 1,500,000 ISK.




In my character portrait sheet under the kill rights tab it shows it there with 19days remaning



So does this mean that i can be killed by ANYBODY (be it in HS or LS) with out any form of repocutions for the next 19days ??
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2014-02-17 21:54:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Chastot
If someone sees you and pays X they enter a limited engagment with you.

i.e pay that and they can shoot you while concord looks the other way
(if he engages you are entirely entitled to defend yourself as well)

Also once it has been activated one of two things will happen,
1) You die. The Kill right then disappears
2) You don't die. The kill right is then made available again to anyone else who pays that price.

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Bucking Firds
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-17 21:57:04 UTC
I Don't get it tho.

So anyone can see me in space, click me pay the X amount and fight me ?


How do they go about that ?
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-02-17 22:02:01 UTC
Correct,

If you (right?) click the pilot and a option should come up to activate a kill right, then the timer begins after confirming activation and payment.

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Bucking Firds
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-02-17 22:39:16 UTC
Jill Chastot wrote:
Correct,

If you (right?) click the pilot and a option should come up to activate a kill right, then the timer begins after confirming activation and payment.




Is it one time only or for 19 days continously ? (like i could be farmed over nd over for 19days ?)
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-02-17 22:41:15 UTC
It is one successful engagment only, or upon the end of 19d it expires and can no longer be activated. Whichever occurs first.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-02-18 00:12:38 UTC
Not quite right. Activating a kill right doesn't start a limited engagement - it flags the pilot as suspect. This means that ANYONE in the vicinity can shoot at you for 15 minutes when the timer starts.

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Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2014-02-18 00:14:32 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Not quite right. Activating a kill right doesn't start a limited engagement - it flags the pilot as suspect. This means that ANYONE in the vicinity can shoot at you for 15 minutes when the timer starts.

Source



Thank you very much, Not too sure of these new crimewatch intracacies. Don't join Kspace for long, even then its normally to drop nullbears.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-02-18 00:52:29 UTC
Bucking Firds wrote:
I Don't get it tho.

So anyone can see me in space, click me pay the X amount and fight me ?


How do they go about that ?



Having just had a little interaction with the killright system (both losing a ship to a killright, and selling a garbage killright for a billion ISK to someone that didn't read properly), I can help you here.

I'm assuming you got the KR against you by ganking someone - there's other ways but I'll refer to the KR owner as the 'gankee'.

Normally in highsec or lowsec there are consequences for someone attacking you (more severe in highsec). This transferrable KR gives people the right to pay 1.5 million ISK to the gankee to make you lose all of those protections for 15 minutes. Because it's public, anyone (including your alts) can make this payment.

Once you lose one ship as a result of legal combat during the 15 minute killright suspect period, the killright goes away. (Be warned: your pod and any ship you reship into is still legal to attack for the whole 15 min, potentially extended by 5 min if you shoot back).


As such you have options. Have an alt/friend buy the KR for 1500k and kill you in a rookie ship, or just treat highsec as being lowsec (ie anyone can shoot you) for a month.

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Bucking Firds
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-02-18 11:33:32 UTC
Thats great guys and//or gals.

I appreciate all the replies.
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#11 - 2014-02-18 16:45:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Vol Arm'OOO
OP - if you want to avoid kr entirely - simply dont pod people in lowsec unless you have a limited engagement with them. As for HS - activating your weapons against a player who is not flagged (either LE or Criminal or Suspect) will result in the target having KR available against you and result in your ship being cocordoikan'ed - so keep your safety to yellow. OFC if you going pirate then KR are not a big deal.

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Qalix
Long Jump.
#12 - 2014-02-18 18:06:47 UTC
Go to backwater, empty system.
Go to safe spot in noob ship.
Get alt.
Bring alt to safe spot in armed frigate.
Alt activates kill rights.
Alt kills you.
You both dock up.
Problem solved.
Bucking Firds
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-02-18 22:06:59 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Go to backwater, empty system.
Go to safe spot in noob ship.
Get alt.
Bring alt to safe spot in armed frigate.
Alt activates kill rights.
Alt kills you.
You both dock up.
Problem solved.



Did that already, figured this to get rid of it.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-02-18 22:42:05 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Bucking Firds wrote:
I Don't get it tho.

So anyone can see me in space, click me pay the X amount and fight me ?


How do they go about that ?



Having just had a little interaction with the killright system (both losing a ship to a killright, and selling a garbage killright for a billion ISK to someone that didn't read properly), I can help you here.

I'm assuming you got the KR against you by ganking someone - there's other ways but I'll refer to the KR owner as the 'gankee'.

Normally in highsec or lowsec there are consequences for someone attacking you (more severe in highsec). This transferrable KR gives people the right to pay 1.5 million ISK to the gankee to make you lose all of those protections for 15 minutes. Because it's public, anyone (including your alts) can make this payment.

Once you lose one ship as a result of legal combat during the 15 minute killright suspect period, the killright goes away. (Be warned: your pod and any ship you reship into is still legal to attack for the whole 15 min, potentially extended by 5 min if you shoot back).


As such you have options. Have an alt/friend buy the KR for 1500k and kill you in a rookie ship, or just treat highsec as being lowsec (ie anyone can shoot you) for a month.

Can confirm that Sabriz and I are bad at kill rights (both of us lost ships to them within a few ours of each other) but that the above information is correct.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#15 - 2014-02-18 22:45:39 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Can confirm that Sabriz and I are bad at kill rights (both of us lost ships to them within a few ours of each other) but that the above information is correct.


What makes you think I'm not ahead on interactions with the killright system this week?

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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#16 - 2014-02-19 14:08:39 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Bucking Firds wrote:
I Don't get it tho.

So anyone can see me in space, click me pay the X amount and fight me ?


How do they go about that ?



Having just had a little interaction with the killright system (both losing a ship to a killright, and selling a garbage killright for a billion ISK to someone that didn't read properly), I can help you here.

I'm assuming you got the KR against you by ganking someone - there's other ways but I'll refer to the KR owner as the 'gankee'.

Normally in highsec or lowsec there are consequences for someone attacking you (more severe in highsec). This transferrable KR gives people the right to pay 1.5 million ISK to the gankee to make you lose all of those protections for 15 minutes. Because it's public, anyone (including your alts) can make this payment.

Once you lose one ship as a result of legal combat during the 15 minute killright suspect period, the killright goes away. (Be warned: your pod and any ship you reship into is still legal to attack for the whole 15 min, potentially extended by 5 min if you shoot back).


As such you have options. Have an alt/friend buy the KR for 1500k and kill you in a rookie ship, or just treat highsec as being lowsec (ie anyone can shoot you) for a month.

Can confirm that Sabriz and I are bad at kill rights (both of us lost ships to them within a few ours of each other) but that the above information is correct.


You think your bad? Check this out - http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=21702072. That's the sort of thing that you really want to avoid. His kr were set at 5 mil - so in effect 5 mil kr were traded for a 6 bil ship. And to add insult to injury, ox iso in his hold had been bought from the pirates that killed him. Generally, people who live in lowsec or gank in hs have no real issue with Krs. Its the folk who only dabble in the occasional lowsec pod kill that wind up in this sort of mess.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-02-20 22:26:49 UTC
One time bump to fix forum.