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One on one fight ? Or a regular FFA brawl ? If it was a FFA brawl, then it shows nothing about how powerfull a ship is or not, because it's not 1vs1 fights.



A Rattlesnake's tank > Every other battleships' tank (Except maybe a true overboosted Bhaalgorn). And it can still deal almost 1k DPS. So sure, you popped them without much troubles.

We tried SEVERAL different fits.

There are two possible fits. Railfit and Blasterfit.



That's what I though. Testing a Zealot with stupidly low skills isn't something you want to do, because it shows nothing about the ship's possibilities.



Oh really ? It's like Black ops in PVE right ?



You're doing something wrong them. You won't win vs a Battleship 1vs1 because the BS have the same firepower you have, but much more tank. Though you can pretty much gank every battleship in the game 3vs1 or even 2vs1 without much troubles.


All in all, I think that those ship will bring true firepower to NanoBCs and other "fastish" gangs. You can bring a Tornado (With 2 nanos) in a Nanohac fleet, it should blend in just fine (Well, it will still be a bit slower, but the x2 HAC firepower will make up for it).

There's your problem. Train some gunnery skills, Calbear.

Yes, there are some good missile PvP ships, so there's no overwhelming need for any more. But the reality is that Caldari missile boats are near-universal favourites for PvE - we certainly don't need any more ships in that mould. On the other hand, there is an overwhelming need for a functioning railgun platform. Several ships contend for that niche, but none command it.

The fact that the other three Tier 3s are all gunboats is no argument for the Naga to be any different. Missiles simply wouldn't have worked in the role. Cruise would be too effective against smaller targets, and torps would have only been useful for PvE and POS bashing.

I know rails suck. I've been one of the many people urging CCP Tallest to go further in buffing them. But the Naga is possibly the first dedicated rail platform that actually makes the damn things work.

You're terrible.


These ships are not built for 1v1 combat. Yes. You need several of them to take down battleships. They're goddamn FLEET DPS SHIPS, not 1v1 powerhouses or PvE ships. I'll be honest, I haven't bothered with a rail Naga because I've never bothered with training Large Railgun Specialization, only blasters. But in the role of a blaster ship, it's actually been rather ok, in my opinion. But I was using it in a fleet, not in a 1v1 fight.

At one time I had a 1v1, Naga (me) versus Talos (old corpmate). Both blaster setups. I got the **** kicked out of me in under fifteen seconds. If you ever manage to get within range of a Talos, you will die, that's almost universal. The Naga is more useful when it's at the edges of it's targets' range, where it'll still do at least 800 DPS IIRC. I did manage to hit the Talos once before I got TD'd, and it took out a vast chunk of his HP; these are not exactly what I'd call survivable 1v1 ships. So please, stop using them like they are and then bawling that they suck at it, because they're not designed for that role.

The OP is clueless. This last round of bonuses for the Naga make it absolutely amazing.

You'll see many in fleets and skirmishes.

This. 1v1 is not the standard for fights, nor should it ever be. A good portion of the fight is determined before you even land on grid in a pvp scenario.

As far as the naga goes, man, that thing is dead sexy and is my favorite of the new tier 3 BCs hands down.

Man...

Put up your opinion and get called an idiot and clueless. This is why I don't usually post on here. So, I am going to ask a dev that this be closed. Sheesh people, you all don't have to be jerks and call others names. In fact, I bet there is something in the rules about this kind of behavior. Put a sock in it and keep the names to yourselves please, and go get a life other than playing EVE from your parents's basement.

WTF do you expect posting about how a ship sucks when you don't even have good skills for its weapon system.

I'd call you an idiot IRL as well. Plus you are like the 50th person in this forum to talk about how the Naga should be a missile ship because no Caldari pilot has Hybrid skills. They don't have hybrid skills because they used to suck. Now they are a bit better and on the Naga a very viable weapon. Go train them up. Spice is the flavor of life...

Oh and I don't have a basement in the house that I own. I'm 31 and married with 3 kids. Sorry I'm an ******* I've been playing EVE too long.