EVE General Discussion

Everything in EVE is moving in the exciting direction of being interactive, palpable, and real. From our Avatars which we can dynamicly customize, to planetary interaction (including ground combat interacting ON planets) we are continuously presented with ways to feel closer to what is happening in the game world. WIS fits in with this and I can't wait for it to happen. When CCP feels this important step forward in the universe is ready, it will be a part of this world and not an interference. When I can walk out of my CQ into that station, it will be stepping into a whole new world that is relevant in its functionality the same as any other game mechanic, even if it is largely social, financial or otherwise.

We make EVE our own game individually because it is so complex and vast. I imagine that as there are players now would never like to, want to, or have a reason to step foot in a station, there will be a breed of players who only step foot inside spaceships to travel to other stations.

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In every WiS related thread there is a post like yours where, personal opinions aside, it appears you did a copy/pasta job from "EVE's greatest misnomers & misconceptions".

That's not how it works according to the lore. The pod protects you and houses the neural scanner which is too big to be implanted in your body, plus external scanners can go off at the wrong time which is why they are rigged to go off on hull breech of the pod as this clearly means you are about to die.

The lore must be respected otherwise eve will lose its Sci fi integrity.

Doesn't the science of EvE cause it to lose it's sci fi integrity?

But I digress.

Yes the pod creates the interface between you and the ship. The pilot is hard wired to the pod and the pod is wired into the ships control systems. There is a neural scanner in the pod also to do a scan just moments before you are dead.

There's a lot of noise about EVE being a game about spaceships, but it's not - EVE is a game about economy, politics, competition and the free market. It's less Isaac Asimov and more Ayn Rand.

See, that's the thing about science fiction - people think of the genre as being all about spaceships and robots and laser guns, but good scifi is about people: humanity. Firefly wasn't a show about being in space yaaay space: It was a show about a doctor who'd go to any lengths for his sister who winds up aboard a spaceship captained by a surprisingly principled thief and his crew of misfits, runaways, oddballs and innocents. Star Trek wasn't about wheee warp drive and torpedoes, it was an exploration of the human condition, from its best to its worst. NuBattlestar wrestled with themes of religion, survival, principle and sacrifice.

The point is that it's easy to get lost in all the laser beams and planets and think "EVE = spaceships". But really, the things that EVE is actually about - power divorced from consequence, capitalism without rules, conflict, intrigue and paranoia - could work just as well in a fantasy game about knights and wizards, a steampunk game about airships and sky pirates or a cyberpunk game about hackers and cybernetic samurai.

So there's no reason not to take EVE along the on-foot route, into New Eden's many wretched hives of scum and villainy. None whatsoever - the guiding principles of what makes EVE, EVE work just as well if you're seeing Han Solo on your screen as if you're seeing the Millennium Falcon.

The disagreement is a purely aesthetic one. Some people are purists who just want spaceships. I'm in the camp that wants to strap on a pistol and go cut some black market deal for stolen megacorporate tech that goes wrong and ends in a vicious firefight in a cargo hangar because a third group of players decided to ambush the meeting and steal everything for themselves. Emergent, player-driven gameplay, is the point.

Neither side is wrong, but both sides can get what they want if the avatar-based gameplay is purely optional and exists to enhance and feed into the spaceships side. And I think that even if the people who want EVE on Foot content is a minority, it's still a large enough minority to justify the time and resources, and the new features would attract new players.

I have a question for the "All EVE expansions should be about the spaceships" crowd- Let's suppose that the Avatar content enables my friends and I to plot and execute an Ocean's 11-style heist where we hack a Lai Dai corporation mainframe and retrieve prototype blueprints for (to grab a completely random example) some kind of tech 3 modules, which I can then build and sell to people to fit on their ship, but they need to be smuggled around, with players in space assuming the role of both smugglers and customs officers. I would argue that content like that would be, ultimately, about the spaceships, even if an important component of it is done looking at the back of my character's head rather than at the back of his spaceship. Would you disagree that it's about the spaceships if everything I do in a station is about acquiring spaceship resources?