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Counting Coup

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epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#1 - 2014-02-16 12:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Spray paint module.
Allows you to paint messages and pictures on an enemies ship, can only be removed by recycling ship for minerals. Module can be operated cloaked, but final application takes place within 2000m with only 3 seconds uncloaked.

This is an EvE version of counting coup. Imagine the head of one Nullsec group showing his courage by placing his corp logo on the Commander's flagship of His enemy .( or some other message.....)

Edit. Limited stencils provided
Edit 2 Sneaking into the enemies heartland and making your mark. Now THAT is emergent gameplay.
I can imagine that Other players will voluntarily award coup bounties for "interesting" targets.

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2014-02-16 16:02:56 UTC
space graffiti?

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#3 - 2014-02-16 19:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Daichi Yamato wrote:
space graffiti?

Shocked
Yup If you like with the added challenge that the "wall" will blow you in to little pieces if you hang around! Leaving messages on a Titan hull might be bad for your health.

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Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-02-16 20:00:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Dolorous Tremmens
even with options in the graphics menu to turn it off, It would be a nightmare for large fleets of people, some of whom would probably be tagged by their own corpmates/alliancemates. for every gate jump there would need to be a loading of decals or at least their 2d location layered on top of the texture of your ship.

I'm pretty sure the reson CCP hasn't done customizable paint jobs for ships is that they get a less complicated system to optimize the large scale movements of ships if every ship of the same type has the same paint. It also marks the Shiny-Bling ships you see because they DO break with the common colour pallette. But since you only want decals..

I do like the idea, but when it comes to ships that may be on the same grid in their thousands, its unworkable, unless the decals/marks are very very small, only in certain locations and always the same size because of theconflicts with the base texture resolution.

The size has to be small, because you'll probably have to load the entire current collection of decals from everyone to some eve temp file. You couldn't go to jita and expect decals to load from CCP's servers everytime someone undocks or jumps in, so it becomes a part of the texture files. Constantly updating when you run the eve launcher as well, cause some people are flighty and change things often. If you're not going the custom decal route and are just using corp insignia, this does not matter as much, but still matters.

It can only go on certain parts of the ship because conflicts in resolution look terrible and expose tiny UV unwrap flaws, which almost all models have unless they are using procedural shaders, which does not appear to be the case. If it could be put on anywhere with any orientation, there would be campers in jjita covered in dozens of tags and you would have people camo tagging friends to block out other peoples marks.

If it can only be placed in one or two places on the ship, corpmates could just get "patriotic" and put their own corp logo over the mark. Then you'd have griefers that just use it to mark people in nasty ways that have nothing to do with coup.

Eve is awesome for the level of imagination in exploiting any kind of feature that can affect others gameplay. If it can be abused, it will be. If it can be used to demean, demoralize, shame, castigate, alienate, emasculate, infuriate and harass, it will be, and it will be the most common use of that feature.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.

Veritaal
Veri-Tech Tax Haven
#5 - 2014-02-16 21:36:16 UTC
Even though it would probably never get implemented, it would be SO much fun if it did!

Some of these old-as-dirt supercaps would be tagged like an inner city alley wall!
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#6 - 2014-02-18 00:25:22 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Yes keep it very simple, sort of I was here type mark with a corp logo or similar, not much challenge using it in high sec,
Counting coup is the old native indian tradition i believe, where a warrior would sneak into an enemies camp and mark it in some way or take some trinket so they knew he had been in their home and no one had seen him come and go.

A way for a brave to prove his skills and courage..

This is what i envision for A new play opportunity in EvE


" how did THAT get there?.."

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