EVE General Discussion

Sounds better than anywhere else atm.

I've exploded in Barleguet, I couldn't get the Archon down before he popped me

We'll see. SEE SEE PEE stabbed its loyal customers in the back by making EVE super easy and casual for a minority of its playerbase while systematically setting out to **** off the majority of subscribers with nerfs and an inability to address the behavior of the coddled minority or provide even a feigned semblance of giving back to anyone except their friends in null.

We shall see if their darling casual "my stuff should be immune while I'm asleep" null seccers are enough to fund the game when the high sec players whom actually prop this game up with subscriptions decide PVE looks much better in that new game.... which doesn't have random acts of repeatable kamikaze, whose CSM isn't stacked with alliance members, where you don't have to run Worlds Collides or Angel Extra for the 500,000th time of stagnant content ....

Damn I could go on forever...

Truth takes a lot of work.

Nepotism. Also glad I could inspire someone :)

We can debate why people may or may not want change, but fact is even the most revolutionary among us are actually rather hard-wired against change. We don't like it.

Change is scary. Many people, faced with an obviously flawed status quo, will defend that status quo despite admitting doing so prevents growth through change.

(the others will either never admit the status quo is flawed to begin with , or will insist there is no better way)

But the answer you're looking for is: It's too hard.

At least, it must be. Because the only people that can get the ball rolling on change haven't done a damned thing. Whether it's "too hard' for CCP to dedicate resources to, they can't come up with a grand plan worth a damn, no idea how to code their way out of the current mess? It all comes down to them.

Because people will always ***** for and against change. But it comes down to a leader with a plan.

If a good leader? plans will be good and everyone will stop bitching about the change when they realize the awesome new thing they have.
CCP fails? well, nothing will change and we'll always wonder, or they'll change things for the worse,

like making some new super-super capital ship (it will be so big and expensive not many will get built)
or maybe adding more structures with millions of HP and timers. because.. in game design don't you know? It's timers (like turtles) all the way down.

Or simply recruit outside your usual timezone - Kalrus summed up the resistance to this very well when he said in response to me suggesting wise recruiting policy "Why should we be FORCED to recruit people who don't speak English?"...

I guess he doesn't realize the majority of New Zealanders, Australians, and the rest of the Asian Pacific region speak English extremely well.

Excellent reply!

But there has been change, just small ones (new deployables are both good and bad examples depending on your approach to change) so far.

This means CCP appears to be taking some initiative, possibly the summer of rage caused a different approach?

But contrasting your post against my own opinions (ex-BlueSec) I'm seeing LowSec and Wormholes as possibly the best places to be (balance and risk/reward) at the moment.

Alright what the hell... I'll weigh in with a few observations from a noob perspective who up until 2 weeks ago didn't even know Goonswarm existed...

1. There's a certain fanaticism about the Swarm that, like em or hate em, I think likely has contributed to their remarkable position. Culture in any organization is vitally important, and I simply haven't seen anything very visible from any other EVE organization that comes close to matching what those guys are doing.

2. These things usually come down to leadership. So again, like em or hate em... An example is the messages that come from Mittani.com. Leaders do very specific things, and they do them in the proper order: they create a vision, they build a strategy for achieving the vision, they build the constituency and resources required to implement the strategy, and then they persistently maintain alignment of those resources until the vision is accomplished.

From a noob's perspective, I see much more of the process of leadership at work from the swarm than anywhere else. Quite frankly, much of the bantering that comes from other alliances comes across as very reactive rather than anything moving toward an over-arching vision and strategy. Don't get me wrong, simple bloviating about what you want to do isn't a vision, and doesn't get &^%^ done. At some point beyond the vision capable managers have to do hard work.

But the point is that really, from my perspective, there isn't anything close that I can see compared to what the Swarm is doing.... and that's closely tied to #1... and also likely an effect of them being grounded in an off-game community... which likely further strengthens their sense of identity to a cause.

So... kudos to CFC.

But before I get trolled for smoking the pole (which I'm sure I will anyway) I would add:

3. Things fall apart. See "2nd law of thermodyanamics." Even as systems evolve, or blob together, they are generating forces that will inevitably and spontaneously result in entropy. We tend to act suprised or shocked that "history repeats itself" but it's actually a basic mechanic of evolution that should be fully expected. Something... be it internal strife, the rise of a countering force (perhaps through defection or the evolution of another form of fanaticism), or simple boredom will eventually... and I would argue sooner rather than later, emerge to dismantle the illusion of status-quo.


So... there u have it. If all this crap about CFC ruling the universe is in fact true or becomes true. Well, congrats. Enjoy it while it lasts though, cuz it isn't gonna last forever.

trust me, it's optional. right up until it isn't, and you wake up a few hours later with drool on your keyboard

and yes, a complete lack of timers is as bad as bad (or too many) timer mechanics. hopefully that's obvious

I remember these posts right after 6vdt

Additional commentary requested, what (if anything) has changed?