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Insta lock gate camps

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Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-02-16 12:11:08 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Guys why put in the :Effort: of using the options already available, when you can whine on the forums and learn nothing?


There is no available option, beside buying a new account and making a scouting alt pilot .
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-02-16 12:14:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrinna Voight-Kampf
Good Posting wrote:
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.


So you are fine with the fact that you need two accounts to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#63 - 2014-02-16 12:14:51 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that there's a difference between risk-free and guaranteed death?


oh ffs you are bad. Not only does it take no more than a minute or so to check it with a covops, pods instawarp, cannot be locked warping away from a lowsec gate, and thus can scout them.

honestly the butthurt over a lost merlin amazes me.
Good Posting
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-02-16 12:17:18 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.


So you are fine with the fact that you need two account to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").


Yes, i'm fine because i can plex it with no problems, but to be honest we shouldn't need second accounts for that, i agree with you.
I wouldn't unsub my Falcon because it is very useful tho.
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2014-02-16 12:18:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrinna Voight-Kampf
Tauranon wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that there's a difference between risk-free and guaranteed death?


oh ffs you are bad. Not only does it take no more than a minute or so to check it with a covops, pods instawarp, cannot be locked warping away from a lowsec gate, and thus can scout them.

honestly the butthurt over a lost merlin amazes me.


Yes, whenever i want to do some frigate FW, i will pick up my alt scouting account and fly around all gates to check if their some Insta lock gate camps.

That's perfectly fine and fun gameplay right there.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2014-02-16 12:21:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Good Posting wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.


So you are fine with the fact that you need two account to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").


Yes, i'm fine because i can plex it with no problems, but to be honest we shouldn't need second accounts for that, i agree with you.
I wouldn't unsub my Falcon because it is very useful tho.


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2014-02-16 12:23:03 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.


So you are fine with the fact that you need two account to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").


Yes, i'm fine because i can plex it with no problems, but to be honest we shouldn't need second accounts for that, i agree with you.
I wouldn't unsub my Falcon because it is very useful tho.


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.


Scouting alt accounts show up on main account KB mails.... Ok.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2014-02-16 12:23:48 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
The only solution for a solo player is a scout-support account, if you can afford it. Map statistics are very useful but not 100% accurate.
You can play eve alone with a single accout if you want, but i recommend to get a second account if you want to live in low-null-wspace.

I live in non-fw low sec and i use a Falcon. Scout+site scanner+pro disengage all in one best ship ever111111.


So you are fine with the fact that you need two account to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").


Yes, i'm fine because i can plex it with no problems, but to be honest we shouldn't need second accounts for that, i agree with you.
I wouldn't unsub my Falcon because it is very useful tho.


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.


Scouting alt accounts show up on main account KB mails.... Ok.


Not if you don't use them in the kill they don't. /der

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2014-02-16 12:25:55 UTC
Fast interceptor. Don't warp off, instead immediately overheat and burn away at a 90 degree angle.

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Angelica Dreamstar
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#70 - 2014-02-16 12:27:59 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Did you just miss the part where I pointed out that there's a difference between risk-free and guaranteed death?


oh ffs you are bad. Not only does it take no more than a minute or so to check it with a covops, pods instawarp, cannot be locked warping away from a lowsec gate, and thus can scout them.

honestly the butthurt over a lost merlin amazes me.


Yes, whenever i want to do some frigate FW, i will pick up my alt scouting account and fly around all gates to check if their some Insta lock gate camps.

That's perfectly fine and fun gameplay right there.
It's fun for the campers. You didn't notice yet that the game isn't meant to be fun for everyone, all the time? Sometimes you pick the short straw, sometimes the others. Maybe you pick the short straw more often...

bingo, his pig not being a goat doesn't make the pig wrong, just him an idiot for shouting at his pig "WHY ARENT YOU A GOAT!" (Source)

-- Ralph King-Griffin, about deranged people playing EVE ONLINE

Good Posting
Doomheim
#71 - 2014-02-16 12:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Good Posting
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.


I know you can live with a single account, and i did it for years, but now that i'm used to my dear Falcon, i don't want to live without her <3

A true love story

Also, i love Khanid lol-sec too.

Edit. I said before " i recommend second accouts", not "second accounts are mandatory".
IDGAD
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2014-02-16 12:30:22 UTC
Sorry guys, I think I caused this. I've been smartbombing the highsec gate for FW feggotry systems for a while now. He probably got mad when I "instalocked" his T1 frigate and pod with my smartbombs :P
Katrinna Voight-Kampf
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2014-02-16 12:32:08 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


So you are fine with the fact that you need two account to pvp, even if it's just some frigate FW...

That's not broken at all, people just need to learn to play ("pay").


Yes, i'm fine because i can plex it with no problems, but to be honest we shouldn't need second accounts for that, i agree with you.
I wouldn't unsub my Falcon because it is very useful tho.


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.


Scouting alt accounts show up on main account KB mails.... Ok.


Not if you don't use them in the kill they don't. /der


Did you even read the posts? We are talking about the fact you need a second account to pvp, so you don't die in insta lock gate camps, a scout alt account.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-02-16 12:35:15 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Don't need a second account for solo PVP in lowsec. My KB is proof of that. It's not all solo, but the solo kills ain't bad and I am more often than not completely solo. I'm in Khanid solo right now.


I know you can live with a single account, and i did it for years, but now that i'm used to my dear Falcon, i don't want to live without her <3

A true love story

Also, i love Khanid lol-sec too.

Edit. I said before " i recommend second accouts", not "second accounts are mandatory".


I know what you said. I was addressing the OP claiming that they were required for successful PVP. There is nothing wrong with people who want to use a second account for scouting, it's their money to spend and none of my business how they want to spend it.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-02-16 12:36:53 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:


Did you even read the posts? We are talking about the fact you need a second account to pvp, so you don't die in insta lock gate camps, a scout alt account.


And I'm saying you don't. Because I haven't died in an instalock gatecamp for months. Because I learned from my experience on how to avoid them solo.

You keep accusing me of not reading, but I'm starting to think it's projection for the sake of more face-saving.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#76 - 2014-02-16 12:38:08 UTC
Katrinna Voight-Kampf wrote:
Mildew Wolf wrote:
if you can align in less than 2 seconds they cant lock you fast enough out of gate cloak

also cloaks can help



I think you missed the instant part. Instant is faster then 2 seconds.


If only you understood how the game mechanics actually work, you'd realise that instalock doesn't actually exist and you'd laugh, just like me, at clowns who state otherwise.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#77 - 2014-02-16 12:43:10 UTC
Mildew Wolf wrote:
if you can align in less than 2 seconds they cant lock you fast enough out of gate cloak

also cloaks can help




Your portrait is confusing... boobs on a dude?
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2014-02-16 12:43:14 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
There is this handy tool called a map. This map even shows the amount of jumps/pilots in system/kills in the last 30 mins. Sometimes the counter to a problem is avoiding it all together. When you undock, especially in low/null, you are running the risk of dying. I would say either find a new route, wait, bring backup, or use a cov ops. But then the gate campers would come and wine about cloaks being unbalanced.

Just because you died to one doesn't make it unbalanced.

The map is useless. Its never accurate and hasn't been accurate since release.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Kryptik Kai
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#79 - 2014-02-16 12:46:17 UTC
HTFU: the solution to all EVE related problems

"Shiny.  Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-02-16 12:46:30 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
There is this handy tool called a map. This map even shows the amount of jumps/pilots in system/kills in the last 30 mins. Sometimes the counter to a problem is avoiding it all together. When you undock, especially in low/null, you are running the risk of dying. I would say either find a new route, wait, bring backup, or use a cov ops. But then the gate campers would come and wine about cloaks being unbalanced.

Just because you died to one doesn't make it unbalanced.

The map is useless. Its never accurate and hasn't been accurate since release.


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