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Oska Rus

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#1 - 2014-02-14 21:43:17 UTC

Hello fellow wormholers.

I recently saw a video on youtube where guy with single moros and some support RR kitchen sink was doing capital escallation. I have done some EFT warrioring and devised some setups like oneiros/eos/rapier/moros or 2xguardian/rapier/moros.

I understand that this is primarily way to farm static. I want to ask if it is still doable/done and what are best practices according to this tactics? And would my setups work for it?

Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 142
Calmatt Science and Trade Institute Caldari State Likes received: 142	#2 - 2014-02-14 22:24:39 UTC This is a great idea, and is definitely doable. I highly recommend farming statics in this fashion. Bring guardians, lokis, and a dread with a depot and that's all you need. There's no real method, just warp to 0 and ****.

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Keith Planck Hi-Sec Huggers Likes received: 975	#3 - 2014-02-15 02:57:08 UTC Wait for it... ♞

Broski North 640
Angsty Teenager Broski North Likes received: 640	#4 - 2014-02-15 04:32:38 UTC Haha, implying you even need subcap support to do a solo escalation in a dread. I actually have fraps of myself doing this. Maybe I'll upload it.

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Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#5 - 2014-02-15 04:43:56 UTC used to do it with dread, 4 guardian and a loki some time ago. or you can BM the spawn point and just warp the dread there. you can kill the BSs before they gain enough range. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

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Borsek KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 394	#6 - 2014-02-15 06:41:53 UTC please do it in c6 space

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Winthorp Likes received: 3,875	#7 - 2014-02-15 11:15:06 UTC 1 Borsek wrote: please do it in c6 space People still live there?

Lazerhawks L A Z E R H A W K S 282
Jezza McWaffle Lazerhawks L A Z E R H A W K S Likes received: 282	#8 - 2014-02-15 13:19:11 UTC You'll want to use 3 Guardians, 2 will have serious tanking and cap chain problems if they primary you. 3 Guardians, Moros, and 2+ Loki's works well. Add some DPS t3's to help take down cruisers so Dread can primary on killing BS's. Wormholes worst badass \| Checkout my Wormhole blog

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Lloyd Roses Artificial Memories Likes received: 1,356	#9 - 2014-02-15 13:21:20 UTC Minimum you need is two guards with links or three guards without to be safe. 4 Guards is overkill, better get another rapier.

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Rroff Antagonistic Tendencies Likes received: 1,155	#10 - 2014-02-15 16:15:19 UTC \| Edited by: Rroff 2 will have issues with neuting - might work a lot of the time but some times they will die and if one of the logi pilots isn't 100% on the ball and all sleepless guardians primary the other it will all fall apart.


Calmatt Science and Trade Institute Caldari State Likes received: 142	#11 - 2014-02-15 18:20:11 UTC Angsty Teenager wrote: Haha, implying you even need subcap support to do a solo escalation in a dread. I actually have fraps of myself doing this. Maybe I'll upload it. Hey jerkward, you'll need subcaps to kill all the non-trigger spawns that point in many sites. Plus everyone knows the warp to 0 trick these days, you're nothing special. Grr

Angsty Teenager

Broski North

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#12 - 2014-02-15 19:07:36 UTC | Edited by: Angsty Teenager

Calmatt wrote:

Angsty Teenager wrote:

Haha, implying you even need subcap support to do a solo escalation in a dread.

I actually have fraps of myself doing this. Maybe I'll upload it.

Hey jerkward, you'll need subcaps to kill all the non-trigger spawns that point in many sites. Plus everyone knows the warp to 0 trick these days, you're nothing special. Grr

Hey jerkward (?) you'll not need subcaps to kill all the non-trigger spawns that point in many sites IF THEY DON"T AGGRO

lol.

Here is a video since you can't even consider that possibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6YdvSX6X5M

Though to be perfectly fair, my guess is that they probably aggro now after the patch notes mentioning changes to sleeper aggro ranges, who knows. Still, it was doable just as I said.


Lloyd Roses Artificial Memories Likes received: 1,356	#13 - 2014-02-15 19:56:07 UTC Angsty Teenager wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6YdvSX6X5M Though to be perfectly fair, my guess is that they probably aggro now after the patch notes mentioning changes to sleeper aggro ranges, who knows. Still, it was doable just as I said. +1


Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#14 - 2014-02-15 20:23:46 UTC why your guns not fkn grouped >_< There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Angsty Teenager

Broski North

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#15 - 2014-02-15 20:33:11 UTC | Edited by: Angsty Teenager

Jack Miton wrote:

why your guns not fkn grouped >_<

Watch the first sleeper. Notice how he gets shot to ~1% hull? There is some mechanic in the game currently where sometimes if you shoot a target with a shot that would have killed it, it will not die and instead remain at 1% hull left or w/e. In the case of this first sleeper, you see that if I had my guns grouped, I would have used all 3 instead of just one to shoot that last bit of hull.

It's a really gay mechanic, and what it means for dreads running sleeper sites is that if my guns are stacked, I will often waste an entire shot just to shoot 1% hull. Ungrouping just lets me waste less dps. Even if this mechanic didn't exist, having ungrouped guns still gives you more dps since you overshoot the target less often.

Obviously in this video it doesn't matter since I finish the escalation easily in ~2.5 minutes, but if you're running 2 escalations, having that extra dps does make a difference in finishing both waves before 5 minutes.


Jack Miton School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 5,031	#16 - 2014-02-15 23:08:33 UTC sure, except you shot it with all 3 again anyway ;) There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout


Angsty Teenager Broski North Likes received: 640	#17 - 2014-02-16 00:50:58 UTC Jack Miton wrote: sure, except you shot it with all 3 again anyway ;) No I didn't, the first sleepless guardian dies to one gun, the other two are then put on the next target, which is my point.

James Arget

Future Corps

Sleeper Social Club

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#18 - 2014-02-16 02:04:51 UTC

As others have said, very much doable. Bring ECM as well, because the escalation waves are the only parts worth doing. Warp support, burn up ~50km, warp dread, kill/salvage/jam and you can do sites in about 10 minutes total. There's probably more max/min ways of doing it, but a comfortable 10 minutes for an escalation is pretty decent.

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Salpun Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects Likes received: 842	#19 - 2014-02-16 02:23:35 UTC Did the changes this week effect these tactics any? If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide See you around the universe.