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I am trying to organize a new Corporation.

I won't have time to post much about it yet since I have to go on other business at this time.


However, I want to set a meeting or a series of meetings so that investors or corporate members can participate.

I will be offering buy in shares, either from an existing corporation or a secondary corporation to monitor the former.


I am trying to post this in CAOD where it should belong.
I may have to pay someone else to even do that.

I will try to find a way to do it myself however since I already have 23 accounts so far.


I should be posting a list of business related matters where business participants can input market discussions.
Of course, I plan to implement other matters unpublished in this channel as well as unpublished business matters.

Why not? Do you have a personal vendetta against me?
What could be the problem?
Or do you just prefer to blame me on top of the vendetta for that too?

Suggesting to subvert the business without investing in it is worst than if you did invest.
At least offer to buy one share so to make a valid vote or offer to become an enemy.
Why would it be so cheap as to get you red status from start for free?


By the way, I finally do have more time now.

I thought this might be an interesting troll......it was not.

I wish I could, but I have to reload the client now, as my convo was attacked and destroyed from my end.

The only way I can contact you now is to communicate with you in EVE Gate.
I can EVE Mail you, but no EVE chat at this time.

On the other hand, 1 of my share would allow you to vote and add your own discussion for a valued fee.
Of course, if I were to say, give you the one share, you could do the same for free.
If I were to pay you to get the 1 share, you would make money to do so.

I can trade my shares to my other accounts, if and only if they are actives.

So can other corporate members.
That is not half the problem of the brain storming.



So could other corp members who are not affiliated with me in other manners in that case trade shares.


I would need majority or be forced to start another corp with voting power to keep my capital.
If I was to and when I will be loosing capital control of the corp, I will not offer this.


Edit:
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND MOSTLY OMITTED MATTER (for a quick 10m +, no forums publishing required):
The CAOD matter as omitted in the 100% (+) of all the following previous replies.

Since I do need this to be added to the CAOD, and the definition for troll, trolling, discussing, inciting ...
I'd invest a few more shares on my own the Corp wallet to make sure the matter is properly address.
I could also invest more to make sure that the address is posted with all related fees.

CAOD RULES
Forum Specific Rules

• NPC alts and Corps with under 10 members
Posting with an unidentified alt in this forum is prohibited. Players in corporations with under 10 members may not post in CAOD.

If you wish to participate in the discussions here, please be sure to have the "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes ticked in your forum settings. Note that players in NPC or alt corporations are also subject to these rules.

The proper link should be under:
1. Hover mouse cursor over the EVE Forum pod pilot character name,
2. choose the middle menu option (out of 3), Profile Settings...
3. The Forums Setting command or menu option is at the bottom of those, the 5th of 5th choice.
4. The "Show Corporation" and "Show Alliance" checkboxes are right there.

+ more...
I can have more than 10 Pod Pilot characters in that corporation or another corporation.

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Edit:
I was offering 15m for the info above and paid one EVE player for his info but he missed it too.

Oh so its just a scam then.

Your language skills are much better on this alt.

No, that's ok.
I can offer some collateral for your investment if you want.
However, please understand that it may not give you the same rights.

What if for instance, there were preferred stocks shares issued granting holders voting rights.

Those investment costs for shares are not even cost to get shares of the dividends or profits.
Those offered investment costs for shares are mostly for voting shares.
Then you can vote to change the structure of the corporation.

If you try to do it before, it is a scam, and defeats the purpose of getting investors.

Edit 19:02:
Here is what I will do:
1.
I will design a chart with the procedures of what the voting shares will grant.
That is besides the already organized ingame structure for voting in the EVE corp mechanic.

Those voting shares I'm offering are mostly to keep track of the corp demand.
It is to help decide on corp activity.
It is to help record the source of those decisions so it can be securely retrieved.
Of course there will be other use for it and I will try to implement them.

I will also add some of the "What business info do you want?" assignments.

2.
I will make sure to compare the EVE voting system procedures to avoid confusion between the two systems.

3.
The corp entity is non-existing and pure business speculation with the associated political relations.
I do not want to have to accept investment which would risk subverting the corp integrity.

4.
As you can see, this forum poster is in a corp which is he the CEO.
That also means that logically, he cannot be the new CEO of the new corp at the same time.
I will try to avoid this as I also have other Corp manager at level 2 able to fulfill the role.

Edit 19:55:

• CORPORATION MANAGEMENT GUIDE
• 6 Politics

SHARES

• 1 Shareholders
• 1.1 Votes and Voting Rights

Edit 21:10:
Anyways, I have little time to write in the weekends, Saturday and Sunday.
I didn't make 1m per hour as I would have mining. (Minus costs and related time.)
I believe I can increase my mining yield to over 1m per hour now.
However, it still pales in comparison with Pilot License Extension rates.

I would have made at least 1.2b which is over 250 times more and no risk of loss.
It is obviously a lot worst over a 2.5 years period, and well over 10,000 and worst.
I would have at least 100b by now.

Business Schedule wise, for writing or replying to communication, my best times are weekdays, Monday to Friday.
From 14:15 to 21:45 EVE Time.
I can do it for free during those time, and avoid loosing more voting power in my own corp.
Very simple, if the corp isn't viable for me, I will not be participating.
I will start another one or remove the violating parties.

Edit 21:27:
In:
Shareholders

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By being a shareholder in a corporation, you are allowed the following actions.

Votes and Voting Rights

When a corporation creates a corporation vote, all shareholders receive a message with details of the vote, and can right-click on the shares in their own wallet to make a decision on the vote. Any player holding shares can see history of votes in the corporation.
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Claiming CEO

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A shareholder inside a corporation that holds more than 5% of the shares, can force a vote to take over CEOship of the corporation.

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Recovering Shares

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There is no way to force another player to return shares to a corporation, so be careful who you give shares to.

Meta-uses

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The main meta use for shares is a corporation selling them ...

+ 2. In: Politics
Votes
... The CEO loses all his normal roles when this type of voting goes on.

+ 3. CEO REPLACEMENT
Voting in a New CEO , Retiring as CEO
See Also

• Votes - A guide on the corporate voting process

+ 4. VOTES

+ 5. Is there a limit to how many shares a corporation can create in Eve?
To create shares, you need to do it through the voting system. However here there is a hard limit of 10000000 shares per vote. I setup another three votes though containing 10000000 shares without any problems.

So, there is a limit to how many shares you can create per vote, but there doesn't appear to be a limit to how many votes you can run for the creation of shares.

+6. Shares and Voting (UniWiki)
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Finally if a player has 5% or more of the shares for the corp he's in he can force a vote for a new CEO. At this point all the shareholders will vote and the player with over 50% support wins.

Also be aware that having unissued shares is also a security risk. A corporation thief can take these shares, and if he has over 50%, vote himself CEO and steal the corp.

-->> That means that any sum of shares issued over 5% is subject to the demise of the remaining 95%.

why am i getting a feeling these two are linked ?


Edit : just had a look and noticed both are born on the same day with a 30 minutes delay between them.



Next time let someone else type dude , the incoherency of your posts stands out no matter on wich character you post.I got the previous one locked , are we going to have to do that again ?

This guy is the best tbh

Just lol ....