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Character training speed

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Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#101 - 2014-01-29 16:42:26 UTC
Algebar Orion wrote:
I see. So torpedo armed BS fit should also include: Afterburner, MJD, Nosferatu and Target Painter?


I would use a MWD over an AB to get in range faster. You won't need the MJD at all IMO. And don't drop a launcher to fit a Nos.

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Algebar Orion
#102 - 2014-01-29 17:45:13 UTC
OK. As for Active Shield Tank fit I have noticed that after enabling all active shielding stuff there are new damage mitigation stats available for shield, armor and ship structure against four types of damage. What damage mitigation per cent do you consider adequate in this situation?
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#103 - 2014-01-29 18:07:02 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Algebar Orion wrote:
OK. As for Active Shield Tank fit I have noticed that after enabling all active shielding stuff there are new damage mitigation stats available for shield, armor and ship structure against four types of damage. What damage mitigation per cent do you consider adequate in this situation?


Yet again, there isn't a fixed the solution is "x".

Also, these are things you have LEARN by practise, specially moving up from smaller ships towards bigger ships, by using them.

A 80% resist won't safe you, if you don't know HOW to use your ship.
A 50% resist can be more then enough, if you know what you are doing and using the right tactics that come with how you fitted the ship.

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Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#104 - 2014-01-29 18:29:28 UTC
Algebar Orion wrote:
OK. As for Active Shield Tank fit I have noticed that after enabling all active shielding stuff there are new damage mitigation stats available for shield, armor and ship structure against four types of damage. What damage mitigation per cent do you consider adequate in this situation?


As J'Poll said, there is no fixed answer for this question.

Stop trying to theory-craft a game you don't understand. Play the game, learn it, then theory-craft.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#105 - 2014-01-29 18:42:52 UTC
Algebar Orion wrote:
OK. As for Active Shield Tank fit I have noticed that after enabling all active shielding stuff there are new damage mitigation stats available for shield, armor and ship structure against four types of damage. What damage mitigation per cent do you consider adequate in this situation?


When missioning in safe mode, I like to have 80+% resists to the specific damage types the NPCs are dealing.

Incursion runners suggest 70% omni resists is a good baseline for running incursions.

When PvP'ing, the ideal resists are very, VERY dependent on what is happening (do I have logi, how many players are in the engagement, etc, etc).
Algebar Orion
#106 - 2014-01-29 18:43:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Algebar Orion
Thanks! Anyway more than 50% is good starting point! Lol
Algebar Orion
#107 - 2014-02-15 10:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Algebar Orion
Hello!

I did not waste last two weeks. I was training my skills hard. Now I think I am ready for LV4 missions but I do not know where to find LV4 agents. All I can find now are LV1 and LV2 agents. Yet I want to test my skills and gear in real PVE combat.
Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
#108 - 2014-02-15 10:36:00 UTC
Algebar Orion wrote:
Hello!
I did not waste last three weeks. I was training my skills hard. Now I think I am ready for LV4 missions but I do not know where to find LV4 agents. All I can find now are LV1 and LV2 agents. Yet I want to test my skills and gear in real PVE combat.

These Agents are to find all over the Galaxy. Use InGame Agent finder to find them.
The Agent Finder is inside NeoCom to the left.
And docked at Station to the right side a little Button if you click tab "Agents".

Mark additional that you need a standing of 5.0 or more to a corp to access their Level 4 Agents.
And a standing of 3.0 to access Level 3 agents.
You may need to grind the lower Level missions until reached this standing.
If you have Standing 5.0 or higher to a Faction (Amarr, Gallente, Caldari, Minimatar),
you are able to Access ALL Level 4 Agents of this faction.
Algebar Orion
#109 - 2014-02-15 10:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Algebar Orion
Not good. So I must grind trough LV 1-2-3 missions to be able to fly LV4 ones. Don't you know how much time it can take? Now my best corp standing is +0.25.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2014-02-15 10:59:19 UTC
Once more with feeling... Don't rush into L4 missions. This isn't a race, there's no prize for getting to L4 missions in a certain amount of time, they're not the b-all and end-all of EVE.

And yes, we all know how much time it takes, we've all done it.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#111 - 2014-02-15 11:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Miriya Zakalwe
Algebar Orion wrote:
Not good. So I must grind trough LV 1-2-3 missions to be able to fly LV4 ones. Don't you know how much time it can take? Now my best corp standing is +0.25.


Yes, you have to raise faction by running lower level missions before you can die while failing to complete L4 missions because it's unlikely you can adequately fit a ship yet.

Specifically, your standing must be 5.0 or greater to be offered L4 missions.

But I am glad to see you post, I was wondering what was going on with you.
Algebar Orion
#112 - 2014-02-15 12:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Algebar Orion
I have read huge amount of informations on the various EVE related sites to get required knowledge how to set up my stuff. Now I think both my toon and ship are now good enough to take up a LV4 & Incursions challenge: 850 dps gank and 600/900 dps sustained/pulsed omni-tank with 94k EHP. Cool

EFT and Eve-Mon are indispensable here!
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#113 - 2014-02-15 12:33:15 UTC
BUEHEHEHEH 24 days old toon in BS doing L4s and incursions :))))

I could probably kill your ship with my blaster venture.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#114 - 2014-02-15 14:32:54 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
BUEHEHEHEH 24 days old toon in BS doing L4s and incursions :))))

I could probably kill your ship with my blaster venture.


Don't feed the failing troll


And about your option, shall we make it a race?


IF...by the minor chance it's genuine...OP will find out that rushing in bigger ships will end in 2 things:

1. Disaster
2. A nice shiny explosion in the place where his bigger ship was.

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World Wide Welp
#115 - 2014-02-15 14:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Miriya Zakalwe
Algebar Orion wrote:
I have read huge amount of informations on the various EVE related sites to get required knowledge how to set up my stuff. Now I think both my toon and ship are now good enough to take up a LV4 & Incursions challenge: 850 dps gank and 600/900 dps sustained/pulsed omni-tank with 94k EHP. Cool

EFT and Eve-Mon are indispensable here!


They will be very helpful for you to plan your cruiser and BC you'll need for the dozens of missions you need to grind to get to L4, too.

You should also train Social, Connections, Negotiation, and Security Connections.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#116 - 2014-02-15 14:42:08 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
BUEHEHEHEH 24 days old toon in BS doing L4s and incursions :))))

I could probably kill your ship with my blaster venture.


Don't feed the failing troll


And about your option, shall we make it a race?


Locator agent has him in the Amarr noob starting system so unless he hasn't changed base since the start of the game, even after travelling to buy his bling barge, I'm leaning towards troll at this point too.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#117 - 2014-02-15 14:46:47 UTC
Train the connections skill so you can do level 4s faster.

I desperately want to see you do level 4s.

Connections will raise your standing with all the corps/faction you already have standing with so you don't have to regrind.

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Algebar Orion
#118 - 2014-02-15 15:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Algebar Orion
OK, I will be training Social, Connections and Negotiations skills next while running low-level missions flying temporary cheap destroyer or cruiser. Faction War is form of PvP so I am not interested in it. Let's hope I will enable LV4 missions quickly. That's all I wanted to know as for now. Cheers!

PS. OMG, a few clowns is trolling here. Get out of this thread and this sub-forum along with your unfounded guesses! Besides someone who dares to scare newbies with ganking in NCQA forum should be banned.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2014-02-15 21:20:17 UTC
so many bites on this troll. I am impressed.

To the real newbies out there that read this thread: this troll is exactly how to not play this game. Don't rush up to battleships expecting to kill everything, and dont take a highly rated fitting from some fitting place (failheap, battleclinic etc) and then just slap t1 stuff on it and expect to do well. (As proven by a special someone and his machariel that we so loved to laugh at a year ago).

Btw I hear Chaven is a good time to go visit with a tornado this day of year. Just saying.
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
#120 - 2014-02-15 22:17:31 UTC
Algebar Orion wrote:
To be able to fly battleship does not mean I will do it in four days. Simply put I want to have this part of overall progress "task accomplished" to concentrate on training of another skills. So next I will buy some destroyer or cruiser and playing EVE I will be training core and auxiliary skills. Anyway I don't want to fly small warships any minute longer than necessary and that is why I ask what nation heavier warships are better.


What do you consider accomplished racail BS lvl 1 ...

Some might argue that lvl 5 in anything might be a waste but to train battleships to lvl 5 since it is a rank 8 skill with your remap lvl 5 will take about 32-38 days...


You seem to be trying to jump ahead and that wil end in tears, when your shiney battleship with small medium and large guns missle turrets, armor, shield and hull tanked gets blown up by an interceptor.

Listen to the folks that posted sound advice ... just because you can fly it does not mean you can FLY it.


Get to know frigates and destroyers they are cheap if you lose them.