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doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?

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Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-02-06 16:37:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Desivo Delta Visseroff
On a related Note, I would like to point everyone's attention to a related thread


Edit: PirateNew page sniped Pirate

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#82 - 2014-02-06 19:11:13 UTC
Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:
On a related Note, I would like to point everyone's attention to a related thread


Edit: PirateNew page sniped Pirate



Stop sneakin in links, thats my job ;p
Short Willie SuckaLot
Lubrication Industries
#83 - 2014-02-06 21:26:39 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?



Cuz they dont want us to have fun?
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#84 - 2014-02-07 00:18:27 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
you have to make them yourself
/thread.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#85 - 2014-02-14 15:29:48 UTC
thank you CCP for reopening this post :) appreciate it :)


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rswfire
#86 - 2014-02-14 20:18:28 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:


"Lets hold hands and tell him together.

[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"

&

"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"



Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.


Unfortunately, they are indeed serious.

The best thing CCP ever did was convince everyone to give them money and tell them to go play with themselves. xP

Actually, I consider them masters at extracting money. Their business models are simply genius.

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Talon Kane
ExeKrab
#87 - 2014-02-14 20:54:51 UTC
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:


"Lets hold hands and tell him together.

[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"

&

"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"



Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.



I'm sorry but I think the problem is your lack of creativity.

In our post-modern era, it has been said that imagination can die.

« I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer ».

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2014-02-14 20:58:29 UTC
Sand Shardani wrote:
The butterfly effect isn't just something that happens in game between players. Developers have to be careful of changes as even a small change can have a huge impact on the game. Make a large change and it is very likely that unforeseen problems arise and break the game play state.

And they do make big changes. See Wormholes...


New NPC AI's also in normal space as well
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2014-02-14 21:01:25 UTC
Centis Adjani wrote:
Oh, CCP do a lot of fun changes all time.

The last one was to reduce warp speed of Orca, Battleships, Battlecruisers from 3.0 to 2.0/2.5.
This 30%! speed reduction (BS) really take a lot of fun away if flying BS and BC.
'Great' fun changes like this happen all along.


Don't forget about having to overload sebo's now to get the same performance as prior to the changes
BrundleMeth
State War Academy
Caldari State
#90 - 2014-02-14 21:32:26 UTC  |  Edited by: BrundleMeth
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.


So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?

We do get big changes. Nerf everything, all the time...



Caviar Liberta wrote:
Centis Adjani wrote:
Oh, CCP do a lot of fun changes all time.

The last one was to reduce warp speed of Orca, Battleships, Battlecruisers from 3.0 to 2.0/2.5.
This 30%! speed reduction (BS) really take a lot of fun away if flying BS and BC.
'Great' fun changes like this happen all along.


Don't forget about having to overload sebo's now to get the same performance as prior to the changes

Yes, it's all such crap. Soon, the only way our ships will move at all is to have us all leave our ships and push...
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#91 - 2014-02-15 00:45:54 UTC
Here's a super big change that stirred up Eve for me. The new exploration system. Suddently I was good at PVP.

Thanks for the Faction BPC Pirate
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#92 - 2014-02-15 11:23:46 UTC
one of the issues with the changes EVE makes, is that it only affects minor groups. A good big change, would affect hole systems and regions and all of them who habitates the area.

If the game had fluxuating abit, changing how u need approach things, how u do things, and how u need to plan for the degree of the fluxuation that occurs... it would make the game more interesting and unpredictable. As its now, u can predict and plan way Ahead in time. Only thing that keeps things abit unpredictable, is the players. The game in itself, does not do squat for u atm.

There are many good ideas to stir things up in the Ideas section, but many players are too comfortable with their predictable way of playing and dont want changes, ergo shooting the Development in the foot....
EVE looks like it wont do anything, cuz it to much work, afraid of angry protesting players or loss of Revenue.

Either way, its a lose lose situation for the majority that want a change.


We could need a full out war, closed borders, trade betwene empires grinds to halt, lack of minerals, big electromagnetic storm whipes out trade systems, Systems loosing Security status and suddenly is lowsec, Gates being destroyed and isolating regions or a Group of systems.

Will it create angry players, hell Yeah, but it will create situsations that will make People both Rich and poorer at the same time.
Flashy 'Red' Bee
Doomheim
#93 - 2014-02-15 11:27:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Flashy 'Red' Bee
The biggest change would be you learning how to spell "you" properly.
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#94 - 2014-02-15 11:28:59 UTC
Flashy 'Red' Bee wrote:
The biggest chance would be you learning how to spell "you" properly.


Grow up and keep ur trolling somewhere else.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#95 - 2014-02-15 11:44:42 UTC
Serious lack of paying attention. This thread could have stayed locked to save the OP.

You claim there is no big fun changes. Thats absolutely ********. I and I alone decide if I feel a change is big or fun. Not you.

Also; there have been changes alot of people would consider "big" :

- WH
- Mothership -> super
- Incursions

So grow up and keep your trollposts somewhere else
Flashy 'Red' Bee
Doomheim
#96 - 2014-02-15 12:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Flashy 'Red' Bee
Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
Flashy 'Red' Bee wrote:
The biggest chance would be you learning how to spell "you" properly.


Grow up and keep ur trolling somewhere else.

1. It's not trolling when somebody points out your mistakes. There's a hope that you haven't lost your dignity completely and thus realize that improving yourself is actually a good thing.

2. I am grown up. Proof is that I can spell "you" and that I don't feel trolled when people point out a mistake I make.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#97 - 2014-02-15 12:48:09 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
OP will not be happy until CCP opens and entire new region of space populated by a new playable race: Space Pandas.





No space pandas...no ******* space pandas! I would rather see the NEX store fill up with pink and glitter paint schemes for ships than see space pandas.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Captain DrunkBucket
Lubrication Industries
#98 - 2014-02-15 12:52:04 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
Serious lack of paying attention. This thread could have stayed locked to save the OP.

You claim there is no big fun changes. Thats absolutely ********. I and I alone decide if I feel a change is big or fun. Not you.

Also; there have been changes alot of people would consider "big" :

- WH
- Mothership -> super
- Incursions

So grow up and keep your trollposts somewhere else



Wormhole, big addition yes, good thing about it, is that it is only accessable by wormholes, which in a diff aspect shouldnt pop up so regulary in main systems. Wormholes should be a rare strange event that rarely pops up and not 2 wh in each system every day.
Ive been in many wh, mined and pve, but it kinda Limited to what u make of it urself. WH Space stay the same, it never changes. Which is the main issue with EVE.

Motherships is also a "big" ting when it came, but not all are interested in putting in so much effort, isk, plex ect to get one, and its Limited to low and nullsec, which makes its existance only for a those with exp, deep wallets and Connections able to aquire one.
So its big for some, not a big thing for others.

Incursions is one of the few things, i havent engaged in and cant say anything about, and i cant say what others have said about it, cuz hearsay and rumours is against forum rules.



But i respect ur opinion for thinking my main post is trolling, not sure why, but i assume u dont want anything to change.
Fred P
Carebears of New Eden
#99 - 2014-02-15 13:28:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred P
You want big changes, and when someone point out any of the ones that have already been made, you brush them off and keep mentioning the ones you've thought up. You even once said they don't have to be those exact changes, but more a sort of guideline in terms of scale or scope. But you also keep mentioning your very specific and very bad changes, so much so that I don't think you'll be happy until your changes are implemented.

However, the changes you keep saying you want would make no sense in relation to mechanics, gameplay, nor lore.

You want sec ratings to change? You want concord to suddenly decide to disregard this agreement they have with the empires to safeguard their systems? Stop policing some, and maybe go police Angel and Sansha space? Then the next day maybe go police goon space? That makes no sense, and would **** of everyone just to please who? You? You want to mess with all of the people who have decided what kind of space they want to be in, and have wisely moved there, just to please you?

You want fewer wormhole entries to spawn? Have you thought this through? Considering how many wormholes there are, and that they have to be connected to some kind of sec-space, and to other wormholes, some of which also have to be connected somewhere else, how are you going to do that? Just not spawn wormhole exits/entrances? You want wormholers and day-trippers to risk being stuck in wormholes for maybe weeks, just because you want to see fewer wormholes on scan?

Edit: Forgot about the wormholes that just lead from one place to another in k-space, I guess those could be removed or severely diminished in numbers, but they are also an important part of the game, and if you just reduce those, and not the ones going into wormholes, I don't think you'd see much of a difference.

What you want is very poorly thought out, and disregards all the other players just to satisfy you.
Lasus
Doomheim
#100 - 2014-02-15 14:04:36 UTC
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
If Mittani does not approove it...it wont happen.


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