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Would you destroy your rare ships and equipment for a lottery?
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Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-02-15 09:04:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Spaceballs The Capsuleer
That is a question being put to the test in the Dust 514 side of New Eden.
Either this is a very clever market scam or the guy is just being downright evil.
And this all appears to have the blessing of CCP's Community Manager.

Part 1
Jadek Menaheim wrote:
Mr. Ridgeson, came up with 'two' particularly ingenious challenges that I wished to feature on their own merits. Depending on whether you're a betting merc, the trade off in SP and equipment may be worth these prizes. However, this may be the burden of your spoils in the eyes of the general community. Proceed with caution as you collect tears.

Dust Challenge Lottery - [Link]
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
CURRENT ISK POT : 50,000,000.00 Million ISK [Photo 2014.02.13]
32,000ct Core 'Vapor' Locus Grenades : Estimated Value 448 Million - 14,000ISK per unit* [Photo 1] + [Photo 2]
1 Active 30-Day Booster : Estimated Value 32 Million
4 Pyrus Suit Series of Choice - [Photo] 4 x (40ct proto, adv, std) = ~28 Million to ~20 Million
Basic Unit Values* Commando 125,000ISK, Proto 75,000ISK, Adv 30,000ISK, Std 20,000ISK
200ct "Al-102" Madrugar : Estimated Value 25 Million ISK; 125,000ISK Per Unit* [Photo]
"ALL" of my Officer Weapons of Choice : No Estimated Value [Photo]
-20 Gastun's HMGs
-42 Gastun's Forge Guns
-16 Cala's Sub Machine Gun
-25 Wolman's Scrambler Pistols
-9 Balac's Assault
-1 Kirn's Assault
-6 Thales
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /

[R][Joseph Ridgeson][02.13 19:12]

Challenge: Recycling Scrap
Target: Your Officer weapons
Role: "How much is this going to cost me later?"
Objective: Commit suicide while holding an Officer weapon. Get no kills with it and do nothing other than commit suicide via jumping out of the MCC. Worthy weapons: Gastun's MIN-7 HMG, Gastun's BRN-50 Forge Gun, Cala's MK-33 Submachine Gun, Wolfman's PCP-30 Scrambler Pistol, Balac's GAR-21 Assault Rifle, Krin's SIN-11 Assault Rifle, Thale's TAR-07 Sniper Rifle.
How to claim: Video showing the Suit with the Officer Weapon/Weapons in the Choose Fitting Screen and then jumping to their death and respawning to prevent Nano Injector.
(Jadek Edit) Reward: You receive 2 tickets per officer weapon destroyed, except Thales which net you 4 tickets. This challenge is uncapped from the normal 20 tickets. So destroy as many as you want. May the tears collection begin! Twisted


Part 2
Jadek Menaheim wrote:
/ / / / / / / / /

[R][Jadek Menaheim]
Name: Corporate Wallet Theft

-For 20 reward tickets (separate from capped purchase tickets), you must conduct an 'unauthorized' transfer of 50 Million ISK into the Dust Challenge Lottery.
*The first person to claim this challenge receives 5 tickets per every additional 50 Million ISK.
*Subsequent claims on this contract receive 4 tickets per every additional 50 Million ISK.

-Redeem contract: To claim the challenge you must provide a screenshot or video of the transaction window. Plus, either video, audio, and screen capture of the response of a verified CEO, director, or auditor for that corporation.

-Additional Points: The corporation must contain a minimum of 10 members and be at least 30 full days old. Yes, I'm going to make it a tad more difficult on you shell corp launders Big smile. Dustboard and other investigative methods will be utilized before authorization of ticket payment. You may still create shell corporation, however, there is a 'cooling off period.'
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#2 - 2014-02-15 09:11:07 UTC
Officer weapons are much more common in Dust than in EVE. You get them as random loot simply for doing a normal match sometimes.
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-15 09:15:15 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Officer weapons are much more common in Dust than in EVE. You get them as random loot simply for doing a normal match sometimes.

Correct. Still, what are your thoughts on the idea being presented with the lottery?

"You have a chance to buy my lottery, if you suicide with your rare gear." Basically what's being said.
Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#4 - 2014-02-15 09:16:01 UTC
No
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2014-02-15 09:16:19 UTC
Given on my dust character I have some officer weapons and don't ever use them, it's pretty cheap really.
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-02-15 09:21:33 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Given on my dust character I have some officer weapons and don't ever use them, it's pretty cheap really.

I think what so interesting about the idea is that a player market hasn't been released yet for Dust 514. The new EP has talked about this being a priority (six months or less.) What the lottery organizer might be doing is simple market economics. Reduce supply to increase latter demand.

The Dust community really value Thales Sniper Riffles, and this lottery challenge is aimed directly at these weapons, providing the highest payout for their scrapping.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2014-02-15 09:23:31 UTC
Thale sniper rifles aren't as valued as you think.
They are 'valued' for random games because you can sit back and snipe with them and get pretend scores. Basically you achieve some kills, but don't actually help your team win the game normally.
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-02-15 09:26:39 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Thale sniper rifles aren't as valued as you think.
They are 'valued' for random games because you can sit back and snipe with them and get pretend scores. Basically you achieve some kills, but don't actually help your team win the game normally.

What would you say takes the spot as a highly valued Officer Weapon. Wolfman Scrambler Pistols, Kirn's Assault Riffles?
djentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#9 - 2014-02-15 10:53:21 UTC
I'm not sure, but I would point out there is a DUST subform and you'd probably get more relevant responses if you used it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=3172
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-02-15 18:48:13 UTC
djentropy Ovaert wrote:
I'm not sure, but I would point out there is a DUST subform and you'd probably get more relevant responses if you used it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=3172

I wasn't getting particularly much response from that Subform on a similar topic.
So I will restate the premise in the context of EVE. This is a point applicable to general discussion.

Would you destroy your rare ships and equipment for a lottery?
Vyl Vit
#11 - 2014-02-15 18:52:34 UTC
No...but I'd sell my "collectors" ships to unclutter my hangar.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#12 - 2014-02-15 19:36:16 UTC
Lotteries are a tax on folks whom are bad at math.
stoicfaux
#13 - 2014-02-15 19:54:50 UTC
Quote:
CURRENT ISK POT : 50,000,000.00 Million ISK


It's a scam. I seriously doubt the pot is up to 50 trillion isk.

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Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-02-15 22:07:05 UTC
No I wouldnt scrap any of my collectors items for that. And it stinks of a scam to boot as mr stoicfaux said.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-02-15 22:28:55 UTC
i have bad luck most of the time.
So nope, i won't destroy MY stuff in exchange for little chance to win lottery Sad

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-15 23:35:49 UTC
This is a question Erotica 1 asks and answers all the time in Eve.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Mourn LeBlade
Jupiter Roughriders
#17 - 2014-02-15 23:41:02 UTC
I seldom destroy rare ships and equipment, but when I do, I prefer no lottery.

Stay violent my friends.

LTCOL LeBlade 177 Division Live Free or Die
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#18 - 2014-02-16 05:52:41 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
This is a question Erotica 1 asks and answers all the time in Eve.


Over 200 contestants so far
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-02-16 08:09:01 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Quote:
CURRENT ISK POT : 50,000,000.00 Million ISK


It's a scam. I seriously doubt the pot is up to 50 trillion isk.


50 Trillion ISK? It's appears Jita bait and switch scams work very well on you. There is a difference between commas and points.
Spaceballs The Capsuleer
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-02-16 08:27:14 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
i have bad luck most of the time.
So nope, i won't destroy MY stuff in exchange for little chance to win lottery Sad

The things is the way he is structuring it is that player you take the plunge on these difficult challenges could buy they lottery. There is also a challenge for betraying your corporation and another for taking pictures of the corporate hierarchy.

-[Challenge 3] Betray your Corporation for great prizes!
-[Challenge 4 & 5] Breaking your non-disclosure agreement
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