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Presubmit complaints/broken CSM campaign promises to Bane now!

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Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#1 - 2014-02-14 19:02:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Hatshepsut IV
In preparation for Bane being our most august and honorable wormhole CSM we should make sure to voice our most serious of complaints/requests for changes enough in advance before he succumbs to old bitter politician syndrome!!!!

Ill start, im still waiting for my "No Trolling Please" campaign button pin.

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#2 - 2014-02-14 19:37:14 UTC
I question his family values and fashion sense. Or did you mean complaints about the game?

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Rob Benson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-02-14 19:46:48 UTC
The Bane Gila is op. Nerrrrrfffff!

Skyriders, ride on!

Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#4 - 2014-02-14 20:03:06 UTC
First thing I'd like from you as CSM, Bane, is have CCP create an official "High Society" channel. A particular combination of clothing will grant you access to this channel.

Hint: red coat and monocle...

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Tyrant Scorn
#5 - 2014-02-14 20:04:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrant Scorn
I would first like to see him make an effort himself to reach out. To many of you who were part of the latest group that led the campaign against SYJ bane might be a well known dude... But what is he to us lower class and small gangers.

To be fair, all I see of him is discussions and troll posting on the forum, which is perfectly fine, but thats something completely different then knowing who he is and what he stands for.

I dont want people feeding him stuff... I want him to present his owm vision instead of our submitted ideas.
corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-02-14 21:06:02 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
I would first like to see him make an effort himself to reach out. To many of you who were part of the latest group that led the campaign against SYJ bane might be a well known dude... But what is he to us lower class and small gangers.

To be fair, all I see of him is discussions and troll posting on the forum, which is perfectly fine, but thats something completely different then knowing who he is and what he stands for.

I dont want people feeding him stuff... I want him to present his owm vision instead of our submitted ideas.



well tbf bane does know wh space. and he used to live in a c2 for ages so i'm attually semi surprised you dont know him from there
Tyrant Scorn
#7 - 2014-02-14 21:31:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrant Scorn
corbexx wrote:
well tbf bane does know wh space. and he used to live in a c2 for ages so i'm attually semi surprised you dont know him from there


Seeing Bane on the forums and knowing his corporation is something completely different then knowing what he stands for. I don't talk to the guy on comms and I don't do operations with him and there are a lot of people in WH space like that. Don't forget that WH space extends beyond the most heard about corporations.

I have been in WH's since they came out, day 1 in fact... but it hardly says anything about my idea's, future vision and my attitude. In fact, I know my idea's aren't very popular and I don't play well with others... But I have been around WH space for a long time. Get my point ?

My advice to Bane is, stop dicking around on the forums, you smack talk too much and thereby giving off a more negative vibe, the people who know you wont judge you on it because they know who you are, but people who don't know you are going to think you're a fraud. Second, write your own campaign and stop asking for what we want... I don't want you to feed me suggestions from others, I want you to convince me with your own. I want to know who you are, who you represent and where you want to take WH space in general.

With respect, and I don't mean any of my posts on this subject in a degrading or disrespectful way, but from where I am standing, you are representing a small elite core of people, let's call it the coalition on demand... and I want you (Bane) to become vocal for more then that.
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-02-15 00:31:18 UTC
Bain Fix POSes!!!

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me

Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#9 - 2014-02-15 02:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Proclus Diadochu
Tyrant Scorn wrote:


Seeing Bane on the forums and knowing his corporation is something completely different then knowing what he stands for. I don't talk to the guy on comms and I don't do operations with him and there are a lot of people in WH space like that. Don't forget that WH space extends beyond the most heard about corporations.


I'm going to do you a solid and break some things down for you, since you are new around these parts. Firstly, I'm Proc, which you may think means next to nothing, and most people may agree, but to some, I'm the founder of Obstergo, a corporation that made our bones in wormholes as members of TEMNAVA, Exhale, Polarized, Bitten, and forming our own clan, RCC. We get around. I'm also the guy who started up a small Faction Warfare group called Fweddit. I've been involved in every community in this game, met most people who think they matter, and made friends with those I like. There are my credentials.

The reason I tell you this, is to point out that you can look at my history and see what I'm saying is fact. Look anywhere, ask anyone. I never use NPC alts, and I post what I feel or think with full knowledge of the possible outcome. I will never demand something of someone so adamantly as you without first being able to share myself. Anonymity is for p*ssies.

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I have been in WH's since they came out, day 1 in fact... but it hardly says anything about my idea's, future vision and my attitude. In fact, I know my idea's aren't very popular and I don't play well with others... But I have been around WH space for a long time. Get my point ?


Now to the point, you say you have been in the void since "day 1" but "Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2013.11.14 23:06 to this day" doesn't support this statement. The thing you need to learn about this community, and many others is credibility gets you a long way. If you have been around since '09, why don't you post with your main? If you want to be a member of our community, join in as you. Otherwise, you won't get very far influentially.

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My advice to Bane is, stop dicking around on the forums, you smack talk too much and thereby giving off a more negative vibe, the people who know you wont judge you on it because they know who you are, but people who don't know you are going to think you're a fraud. Second, write your own campaign and stop asking for what we want... I don't want you to feed me suggestions from others, I want you to convince me with your own. I want to know who you are, who you represent and where you want to take WH space in general.


This ties in to who you are and credibility. Who the f*ck are you and why do you think that you are entitled to demand anything? If Bane sincerely does run, he'll probably win because he does a ton with our community, much like Chitsa has in the past. I flew with Chitsa, and even when he campaigned for CSM8, I helped him with sculpting his ideas since English isn't his first language. Don't get me wrong, Chitsa has amazing speaking skills, but I offered my help to write, because he is a friend and I wanted to see him succeed. People helping isn't a knock against Bane. These could be people who just want to see him succeed. Likely just trolling, but if sincere, like we were with Chitsa, it was to support our CSM candidate. You can't just waltz in demanding things, otherwise people will tell you to go eat a bag of d*cks.

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With respect, and I don't mean any of my posts on this subject in a degrading or disrespectful way, but from where I am standing, you are representing a small elite core of people, let's call it the coalition on demand... and I want you (Bane) to become vocal for more then that.


You act like there is some elite little cabal that controls w-space. Although you are correct, Bane isn't even involved in that group. Bane doesn't represent that group and frankly you only think you understand it, but I can assure you, you have no idea what the big picture is in this community.

I recommend you settle down and post with your main.

Minister of High Society | Twitter: @autoritare

E-mail: diogenes.proc@gmail.com

My Blog: http://diogenes-club.blogspot.com/

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Tyrant Scorn
#10 - 2014-02-15 02:59:19 UTC
First of all, let's cut the f*cking bull and tone your attitude towards me down a notch or two, this isn't the first thread where you have been acting like this. Take a chill pill, adjust any preconceptions you may have, re-read what I wrote, but rather calm and constructive, and then come back at me because I do not believe your aggressive tone is necessary or called for.

I demand nothing from Bane himself, I make suggestions to him on a forum and I share my point of view, which a forum should allow me to do and as long as I have the freedom to post in these topics, I will continue to do so, no matter what you think of me.

My character history, previous accounts and/or characters are not even remotely relevant here and my reputation should not be a limitation whether or not I can or can not share my opinion. I will share my opinion regardless... I don't care what you think and I won't silence or sensor myself just because you can't handle someone being outspoken.

Back to Bane, I will vote for him if he can present his vision and his own campaign and his opinions don't even have to match mine a 100%, I just want to know that he is strong and self assured and that he can fight for what he promises, if he has to rely on others to make threads and ask for submissions, then I fear for his campaign. Make me believe in what you're selling instead of having threads made by others... which for the most part didn't have any serious suggestions in them.
Winthorp
#11 - 2014-02-15 03:00:31 UTC
Chitsa Jason wrote:
Bain Fix POSes!!!


He is our only hope it seems, we have wasted years of votes on yes men.
Winthorp
#12 - 2014-02-15 03:04:10 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
corbexx wrote:
well tbf bane does know wh space. and he used to live in a c2 for ages so i'm attually semi surprised you dont know him from there


Seeing Bane on the forums and knowing his corporation is something completely different then knowing what he stands for. I don't talk to the guy on comms and I don't do operations with him and there are a lot of people in WH space like that. Don't forget that WH space extends beyond the most heard about corporations.

I have been in WH's since they came out, day 1 in fact... but it hardly says anything about my idea's, future vision and my attitude. In fact, I know my idea's aren't very popular and I don't play well with others... But I have been around WH space for a long time. Get my point ?

My advice to Bane is, stop dicking around on the forums, you smack talk too much and thereby giving off a more negative vibe, the people who know you wont judge you on it because they know who you are, but people who don't know you are going to think you're a fraud. Second, write your own campaign and stop asking for what we want... I don't want you to feed me suggestions from others, I want you to convince me with your own. I want to know who you are, who you represent and where you want to take WH space in general.

With respect, and I don't mean any of my posts on this subject in a degrading or disrespectful way, but from where I am standing, you are representing a small elite core of people, let's call it the coalition on demand... and I want you (Bane) to become vocal for more then that.


I really don't know who you are or if you are even living in W-space but our community doesn't need your conscious pouring over every issue that will come up.

To be in context you seem to have popped up all over the WH threads with your moral ******* high pedestal judging us all and doing some really bad podcast with no mic. Get better or GTFO.

P.S this isn't a protect bane comment i troll him all the time about wanting to do CSM, this is about who do you think you are...
Tyrant Scorn
#13 - 2014-02-15 03:07:00 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Chitsa Jason wrote:
Bain Fix POSes!!!


He is our only hope it seems, we have wasted years of votes on yes men.


I don't think that the POS problem lies with the CSM not being vocal about, this is completely on CCP. CSM 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 campaigned for it, CCP has been talking about it since then and every CSM after CSM 4 has tried to get it working but everytime CCP has given us the finger.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#14 - 2014-02-15 03:15:34 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
First of all, let's cut the f*cking bull and tone your attitude towards me down a notch or two, this isn't the first thread where you have been acting like this. Take a chill pill, adjust any preconceptions you may have, re-read what I wrote, but rather calm and constructive, and then come back at me because I do not believe your aggressive tone is necessary or called for.

I demand nothing from Bane himself, I make suggestions to him on a forum and I share my point of view, which a forum should allow me to do and as long as I have the freedom to post in these topics, I will continue to do so, no matter what you think of me.

My character history, previous accounts and/or characters are not even remotely relevant here and my reputation should not be a limitation whether or not I can or can not share my opinion. I will share my opinion regardless... I don't care what you think and I won't silence or sensor myself just because you can't handle someone being outspoken.

Back to Bane, I will vote for him if he can present his vision and his own campaign and his opinions don't even have to match mine a 100%, I just want to know that he is strong and self assured and that he can fight for what he promises, if he has to rely on others to make threads and ask for submissions, then I fear for his campaign. Make me believe in what you're selling instead of having threads made by others... which for the most part didn't have any serious suggestions in them.


Eat a bag of d*cks

Minister of High Society | Twitter: @autoritare

E-mail: diogenes.proc@gmail.com

My Blog: http://diogenes-club.blogspot.com/

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Tyrant Scorn
#15 - 2014-02-15 03:17:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrant Scorn
Winthorp wrote:


To be in context you seem to have popped up all over the WH threads with your moral ******* high pedestal judging us all



Is there a certain amount of time and limitation on how long you are part of the WH forums until you can post your opinions ? Because I seem to have missed that rule in the elitist WH community rule book.

You claim not to be the elitist blue balling coalition on demand, yet you require people to have a certain amount of reputation before they can voice their opinions, yet, you can't build up any reputation at all, cause as soon as someone speaks out against YOUR views, you smack them down.

So let ME BREAK IT DOWN for you... I have to suck your mainly parts for a certain amount of time to build up enough credits, to be able to speak my mind... Yeah buddy... Welcome to the new world, go back to their third world hole you call a country and make way for freedom of f*cking speech.

Proclus Diadochu wrote:
Eat a bag of d*cks


Is that your come back or did you waste all your intellect on that first post ?
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#16 - 2014-02-15 03:19:38 UTC
Yo Win, he called Australia third world, bro!


Also, Tyrant, post with your main. Also, dis bag o' d*cks has your name on it.

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Thor66777
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#17 - 2014-02-15 03:20:15 UTC
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
First of all, let's cut the f*cking bull and tone your attitude towards me down a notch or two, this isn't the first thread where you have been acting like this. Take a chill pill, adjust any preconceptions you may have, re-read what I wrote, but rather calm and constructive, and then come back at me because I do not believe your aggressive tone is necessary or called for.

I demand nothing from Bane himself, I make suggestions to him on a forum and I share my point of view, which a forum should allow me to do and as long as I have the freedom to post in these topics, I will continue to do so, no matter what you think of me.

My character history, previous accounts and/or characters are not even remotely relevant here and my reputation should not be a limitation whether or not I can or can not share my opinion. I will share my opinion regardless... I don't care what you think and I won't silence or sensor myself just because you can't handle someone being outspoken.

Back to Bane, I will vote for him if he can present his vision and his own campaign and his opinions don't even have to match mine a 100%, I just want to know that he is strong and self assured and that he can fight for what he promises, if he has to rely on others to make threads and ask for submissions, then I fear for his campaign. Make me believe in what you're selling instead of having threads made by others... which for the most part didn't have any serious suggestions in them.


Sorry its hard to take your suggestions seriously when you post on a alt. Its just how it works around here. I'm sure you have valid concerns. But going around demanding things from people isn't going to work on a no name alt.

On topic: BANE FIX POSES PLOX.
Tyrant Scorn
#18 - 2014-02-15 03:25:47 UTC
Thor66777 wrote:
Sorry its hard to take your suggestions seriously when you post on a alt. Its just how it works around here. I'm sure you have valid concerns.


See, and that is where you differ from me, I do not bow down to things like "that's how it works around here..." This is Eve Online, deal with it, you can't stop me from posting and I am not looking for your approval and I don't ask you to like me, so you can either stfu or continue a constructive conversation.


Thor66777 wrote:
But going around demanding things from people.


I demand nothing, I make a suggestion. I seriously do not know where you have learned to read but maybe read it again, I seem to have used plain English and I didn't beat around the bush, I used language even idiots could understand and yet you misinterpreted half of what I wrote... Good job.


Winthorp
#19 - 2014-02-15 03:26:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Tyrant Scorn wrote:
Winthorp wrote:


To be in context you seem to have popped up all over the WH threads with your moral ******* high pedestal judging us all



Is there a certain amount of time and limitation on how long you are part of the WH forums until you can post your opinions ? Because I seem to have missed that rule in the elitist WH community rule book.

You claim not to be the elitist blue balling coalition on demand, yet you require people to have a certain amount of reputation before they can voice their opinions, yet, you can't build up any reputation at all, cause as soon as someone speaks out against YOUR views, you smack them down.

So let ME BREAK IT DOWN for you... I have to suck your mainly parts for a certain amount of time to build up enough credits, to be able to speak my mind... Yeah buddy... Welcome to the new world, go back to their third world hole you call a country and make way for freedom of f*cking speech.


I claim to be nothing, i literally don't care what type of player you think i/we are.

I am all for people voicing there opinion whenever you damn well like but you just started posting in WH's and the first thing you do is run a ****** podcast licking Pells rectum and blaming Bane for starting some coalition to burn SYJ (He is just a line member like me that goes where the action is)

You don't have to wait any length of time before posting comments, but you should at the very least get some context on what the hell you are talking about.
Tyrant Scorn
#20 - 2014-02-15 03:30:25 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
and blaming Bane for starting some coalition to burn SYJ (He is just a line member like me that goes where the action is)


LOL? If you are throwing a wild claim like that around, you better back it up with some quote of mine with the source linked cause I never even brought Bane into the SYJ thing... I think you might have misinterpreted something.
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