EVE General Discussion

The solution of wardecs depends on how you define the problem and what you see as the failures of the current system. Three problems are easy to fix.

1. Dropping to avoid wardecs. ISK penalty applied to corps and players who do this. Pay it to attackers as a penalty for additional fun and games.

2. Dec shields. This exploit was introduced with the patch that scaled war dec fees depending on number of wars declared. Remove the X Aliiance, or Privateer Alliance, nerf. Flat fees but remember not everyone does incursions and is isk rich so dont price wars out of reach of even the smallest groups.

3. Joining in space. Remove this but keep leave in space. This fixes the last of the petitionable offences in wardecs.

These are the most basic fixes required and the level of code changes compared to other suggestions is minimal.

Not a problem but change the name of wardecs to something else so people dont keep thinking in terms of classical set piece wars with defined victory/loss conditions as this is not something a sandbox game needs. Oh, and post somewhere that you actually pay CONCORD to sanction the war and that people are not bribing CONCORD in any way to let them fight illegal wars.

No. That would have been the locking of the thread.

Anything happening on the wardec fixing front?

I'm not sure if forum discussion has ever changed anything.

i dun think dat CCP evar heard playas on da forum and did change cuz of dem ya heard me?

There are other options. Find other enemies of your attackers and team up with them. Scatter your corp members far across the EVE universe, so that your enemies have to go 30 jumps for each kill. Move to low sec or wormhole space, where war targets are no more or less dangerous than any other player. And of course there are the less honorable, but now CCP-sanctioned tactics of corp-flipping (making a new corp and moving all members to it), dec-scraping (joining an alliance then quitting it) and dec-shielding (dec'ing yourself with bogus alt corps to drive up the cost). All of these are within reach of a character a couple of months old.

A corp, even the newest corp, can deal with an occasional war, and may even find it challenging and fun. The only problem with the war dec system IMO is that some new corps can become almost perpetual war targets, dec'ed by one enemy after another so that they rarely are at peace. At that point, many of the members realize they will never be able to play EVE the way they want (except maybe in an NPC corp) and quit the corp or quit EVE altogether.

either:
1. this forum needs /sarcasm tags for your original point
2 it doesnt need /sarcasm tags because you were blatantly trolling and i got sucked in
3. you were completely serious and you have replied because you have just realised how dumb you are.

for personal reasons im going to choose 3, it being the option that makes me look less dumb.

now, any news on those wardec changes?

Posting in an epic griefer tears thread. Please continue.

Taking that to the logical conclusion - does it mean incurance is not paid out when concord get the FINAL blow, or just if they are on the killmail???

Useful service to us smaller corps with no way to defend ourselves to grief corps other than pay stupid amounts of money to merc corps.

I support this