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AFK Ratting with Drones

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Douxo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-02-14 18:23:27 UTC
Is it against the rules, to take a Retreiver into a 0.6 Mining Belt, launch 5 drones, and use a Civilian miner to sit AFK for a very very long time, causing rats to spawn and have your drones auto-farm for you?
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#2 - 2014-02-14 18:27:20 UTC
For an official response file a petition and ask a GM.

I can't say if its allowed or not but I can say it would be completely pointless and would most likely result in all your drones being killed followed by your ship.

That's if you don't get yourself ganked first.

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Thaddeus Brutor
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-02-14 18:29:21 UTC
No, it's not against the rules to AFK with your drones out. It's against the rules to use a macro-program to initiate actions while you are AFK.
Douxo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-02-14 18:29:22 UTC
Well its in high sec, relatively abandonned area.
Active mining my drones flog most things within 5-6 seconds, and i take no more than 5-10% Shield damage.
Only 2 or 3 rats spawn at a time. and its only for when i go out, nap or watch movies.
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#5 - 2014-02-14 18:40:37 UTC
Douxo wrote:
Is it against the rules, to take a Retreiver into a 0.6 Mining Belt, launch 5 drones, and use a Civilian miner to sit AFK for a very very long time, causing rats to spawn and have your drones auto-farm for you?


Being AFK is legit. Using automated macro commands is against the rules.

Only issue I see isnt so much the rats, though switching aggro mechanics might be an issue in the very long run. Its fellow players that might interupt your farming.

And why would you want to farm belt rats in highsec... and even more in a retriever.

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Douxo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-02-14 18:44:36 UTC
Because buying a hulk is counterproductive if im not going to mine for a long time. i won't make my money back for the ammount of mining im planning to do, and high sec because i don't have a corp in low/null/WH
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2014-02-14 18:51:51 UTC
Douxo wrote:
Because buying a hulk is counterproductive if im not going to mine for a long time. i won't make my money back for the ammount of mining im planning to do, and high sec because i don't have a corp in low/null/WH


Well good luck to you. Dont think you thought about retrievers being primal gank food. You can do this in a combat ship too and actually survive

Basically, mine using a mining ship, rat using a ratting ship.

But if you stick with highsec. Run missions over belt ratting, it pays a lot better then 0.6 rats (which I estimate on 1 -1.5 mil / hour tops).

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Nerath Naaris
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#8 - 2014-02-14 18:56:26 UTC
This entirely depends on the system you are in.

Please post the name of it so we can help you.

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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#9 - 2014-02-14 18:57:30 UTC
Doesn't seem very profitable. You'd probably be better off doing actual mining, and just have shorter intervals of AFKing. Plus, being AFK in a Retriever in 0.6 you would be a prime gank candidate.
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#10 - 2014-02-14 19:01:32 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Nerath Naaris wrote:
This entirely depends on the system you are in.

Please post the name of it so we can help you.


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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-02-14 19:03:19 UTC
Probably illegal.

While it's not exactly the same issue, read this:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/regarding-afk-complex-farming-1/
Quote:
While this activity does not necessitate the use of a 3rd party program in order to carry it out you ARE generating income in an automated fashion while sleeping which is not being present playing the game. As such our automated systems will continue to detect and institute administrative actions for this activity.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#12 - 2014-02-14 19:04:20 UTC

There was a highsec plex that had infinitely respawning NPC's, and someone setup farming it with permatanking afk domi's. That was deemed an exploit, but cant be asked to lookup the story and details at this time.

Truth be told, it is a non-issue in highsec belts, as the isk you earn on highsec belt npcs very, very, very small. I doubt you'd make 10m isk a day leaving your ship vulnerable to attack the entire time.

If you choose to pursue this, I would highly recommend using a ship tankier than a retriever, perhaps a vexor or myrm or domi (i.e. something that also gets a drone HP and damage penalty.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#13 - 2014-02-14 19:06:11 UTC
This doesn't sound like like the serious moneymaking plan i was hoping to find.

Those rats will net you 40K an hour?

I think you're better off putting a transport on the biggest roid you can find in a 0.9 and "mine" that
Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-02-14 20:18:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
AFK retriever in a belt in hisec is going to have a very short life span...

First you will get bumped out of mining range then once it has been ascertained that you are indeed AFK, in come the thrashers/catalysts to pop your retriever (and pod as well depending on who finds you).

In every way I can imagine, this is a bad idea. I hope you go through with it, however, as it is always nice to hear about AFK miners being ganked!
Joanna RB
JoJo Industries n Shipbreakers
#15 - 2014-02-15 11:40:10 UTC
1 you cannot fit a civillian miner on a retreiver.you need a turret slot to do that. Retrievers can only fit strip miners.
2 mining has no effect on rat spawn rates.
3 a rock in hisec mines out in under 10 mins with an unskilled miner, 3 mins skilled. That's the longest you can afk mine.
4 if you want to farm asteroid rats, fly from belt to belt in a cruiser, not a retreiver.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-02-15 12:18:31 UTC
I cannot fathom the incessant urge of some people to "play" this game while AFK. Ugh
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#17 - 2014-02-15 12:39:33 UTC
Frank, look for the other thread from OP on this forum and a lot about this one will become clearer :)

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J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2014-02-15 15:16:58 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Frank, look for the other thread from OP on this forum and a lot about this one will become clearer :)


Ooh...lol, it's the WH guy. Didn't even see that.


So, it does look like he is just wanting WH space for the ISKies and not for the community or common goals or PvP.
Good luck with that, or being AFK in WH space if you ever come into it.



Again, if you want to farm belt rats (I don't see why you would farm belt rats in high-sec for an income of less then 1mil / hour), pick a ratting ship.

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Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-02-15 17:00:55 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Frank, look for the other thread from OP on this forum and a lot about this one will become clearer :)

I had to read that thread twice. Nightshifts are bad for me, mkay. Blink

So, AFK belt ratting to finance a Stealth Bomber?

Heh. Yeah, that may take a while.
Douxo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-02-15 21:23:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Douxo
It was just an idea for while i slept, for a bit in the pocket, wasn't sure if it was viable, but since i got such a negative response, i guess i'll end it here.
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