Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Except every gate will have a T1 frig with a trial account waiting on them to check your entry point, and a gang ready to intercept will be on their way should you approach the gate.


Sakht. Your argument is now invalid. Given enough incentive, "larger entities" ARE going to spend 23/7 camping low sec. And oh they will have it, if not by just absorbing whoever is camping it now.


No need for patrols, as said before. All haulers will belong to "larger entities" and at best will be accompanied by 1 cyno ship ready to drop a hundred supers on anyone who tries.


Well, the blue donut showed us they're perfectly able to split their areas of influence, and set up rules everyone inside can benefit from, and no one outside can. This thread itself is a fine example.


Now this is just stupid below par. So what if you use a scout? True, you might avoid losing a ship, but the cornerstone issue is that you still can't haul if you found anyone. Along with afk cloakers we will start seeing afk carebear repellents.

If any amount of people can plant any amount of T1 trial frigates in whatever amount of systems and keep a close enough eye on ALL of them to effectively catch people. Then with that amount of diligence they deserve to catch people.... The truth though is that is physically impossible. It's one thing to multibox 20 miners taking the same commands, but it's another thing for one person to watch 12 or even 4 or even 1 screen diligently enough to lock down a system, much less more than one.
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To be honest, after the statement "accompanied by 1 cyno ship ready to drop a hundred supers" it's obviously that you're concept of EVE is vastly different than reality.

Your comment "Along with afk cloakers we will start seeing afk carebear repellents." makes it obvious you were a null bear for a very short period of time and the extent of your pvp interaction is getting hot dropped by an afk cloaker. Afk Cloakers are not going to migrate en-mass to lowsec to loom over 1 person jumping through the system. Afk cloaking is not just something to do for fun, it does have a purpose.

And dropping a hundred supers isn't going to be very effective vs a hauler.


Nail on the Head. Welcome to EVE, where proper scouting will prevent you from a pointless loss.

Nobody can camp lowsec 23/7. Scouting is to find when the time is right to make your move. If there is a gate camp happening, then guess what, someone will come looking for a fight and will engage that gate camp. And then if either one of those groups has backup, well if they were camping a system too, you'll have a chance to go through while they're away supporting the other group.

Low sec isn't a static camp fest. It's a dynamic movement of people looking to fight each other on their own terms moving towards the targets they're most suited to kill and away from the ones most suited to kill them.

If people camp ALL of the systems too hard then nobody will go through and the campers will lose interest and disperse opening the way for people to travel through and then eventually the campers will move back and you'll have an ebb and flow of campers vs haulers.

+1

This one speaks truth.

I actually like the OP's idea in theory. It would do wonders for regional markets, but it would require erasing ten years of history to implement it, either by pretending it didn't happen or creating an entire disruptive narrative that fractures the lines between the empires. It's a thought-provoking idea though. +1 for that.

You are assuming that I am not keeping up with the lore?

Trust me, I am.

Relations breaking down between the empires would result in MORE military presence along the borders between regions, not less. Sure, we'd see some violent actions - but this would not qualify the systems to be considered "low-sec". If you read up on your lore and game mechanics, you will see that most low sec systems in the game are where the fight between nations is actually going on - this is why we have Factional Warfare. The systems flip from empire to empire quite often. These are the systems where no solid claim can be held by any empire for long - these are the true "border zones".

It's a fun idea - but erasing ten years of storyline and totally fragmenting the way empire space works does not seem like a very solid idea. It seems to me your idea involves making more high-sec into low sec. I can't see how that would work or fit in any way.

If anything, given a total breakdown in relations - i'd expect the various empires to actually expand their presence further into low sec and start grabbing as much of a strategic foothold in those areas, thus increasing the traffic and importance of those systems, thus making CONCORD more likely to impose tighter security on those areas in a effort to keep us safer :)

Now, ignoring the lore and story line - I see this doing nothing but harm to the community as well. You did not address my point of how many players we have who have bought into the propaganda that leaving empire space under X number of skill points and without being able to fly whatever popular ship they are told they "need" is pretty much the same as self destructing. Many carebears are convinced that every single low sec system must be gate camped 24/7, and to even come into the system is going to result in getting hotdropped upon. Now, add low sec regions and totally fragment the player base. This will do nothing but add to the cancer that is infecting so many eve players - the people who have been with us for many years sitting inside a noobie holding corp and never sociliazing with another player, never creating any content or engaging in anything beyond mining a veldspar rock for a decade or running the same mission over and over to create money they use to buy overblinged ships to run the same missions with and then cry over when the bling finally get out of hand enough that they attract ganker attention.

It's a fun idea - but I see nothing but fail coming out of it.

If CCP were to ever consider this idea they would have to make their own sticky, featuring their own interpretation. Also the one Dev post in this thread (which has earned it lots of views) is just Fozzie saying that he in fact exists.

considering the amount of negative feedback i have gotten what would have to happen is make a few suggestions at a time, or else people will go crazy.

1. Make hisec routes longer, see what happens
2. Make new low sec regions with more shortcuts
3. cut the chord.


Keep on posting and arguing though, and it may happen.

I think trying this between Amarr/Caldari and Minmatar/Gallente may be a good way to test it out. It would at a lot to the game with FW players fighting for corporations / players to secure trade routes. Perhaps giving a captured system protection for a very limited time from enemies. At the same time require FW pilots to actively participate in providing. Maybe create a new structure that can only be deployed during this time that would give them more intel on the systems that are currently under this protection or some type of timer. In turn they could use this info to decide for the haulers or who ever where to go and what to do. Sorry for being vague but I'm really tired.

You need SOV to use a jump bridge, that is why there are none in low sec




Yeah, they are usually C1/C2s in High, I use them regularly.



Way false.

I don't think I have ever actually lost a ship to smartbombers. Getting around them is a simple matter usually...and that includes fun systems like Amamake and Rancer.



You do understand that us null bears use blockades extensively to move things around, both in null and in low sec because we have **** we need to sell as well.




As to all of this .......sperg
~mercs hang near trade hubs, because they know SOMEONE will show up
~powerblocks rarely camp in low? Why, so we can kill a couple shuttle and the odd indy that doesn't know how to set his autopilot? Usually if we are in low at all in a group we have a target and that is simply the fastest way to get somewhere .
~What is this cyno rights crap? Have you EVER moved a ship with a jump drive? All you need is a station, getting back out may be a little more tricky, but meh. I've seen Black Frog jump a freighter in with a 400 man battle including titans onfield......on the station grid.

The rest just lol.

That is an impressive amount of fear.

Already exists.
Go to Hek or Rens and route shortest for either Dodixie or Jita respectively.

Hek takes you through Rancer and Rens will lead you through Rancer. We all know those system names right? They are kinda of Eve famous Up north that can be fixed by making Udema low sec , pretty much ALL east/west traffic in the Forge has to pass through there that is why its gank city.

Except that is how it already is.