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I'm a little concerned by what I'm reading. I've created characters and corp names based on names that have personal meaning to me outside of Eve. I've used these names on other games and things outside from Eve. In fact, this year I started an LLC (a real company) which is named after one of my online characters. Of course, *my* names have no affiliation to CCP whatsoever and make no references about the game at all. The only link (if you want to call it that) is that they share the character/corp name.

My question is where do I stand on this? Am I violating CCP rules?

Meanwhile I'm just busily laughing my ass off over the whole situation.

EVE is a game that encourages militant viciousness that extends out of the game. I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't more registered lawyers per head of population in EVE than any other MMO. Goonswarm alone has had 2 lawyers as CEOs. I'd like to say I'm surprised that CCP didn't see this coming, but I can't because myopia seems to be part of the corporate DNA.

I did know that the Fatbee logo was registered, but I didn't realise that Goonswarm was incorporated.

EVE is real alirght.

I love how people keep talking about US law or German law or {COUNTRY_NAME} law.
You seem to be forgetting an important part: CCP Hf. is a company in Iceland subject to Iceland law.

I'm not saying this seems to be a good move, but your arguments why aren't very sound. I should also note, most of you aren't lawyers anyways.

If anyone wants a professional design, contact me in-game. I do this @#$% for a living, 7 years now.

I've done stuff for many in-game corps. Example: http://www.pushx.net/ (only the logo up top.. I do not take credit for the rest of the bad web design.)

Of course ISK is always welcome in return. :)

And the people who hold the copyrights for their alliance logos are subject to the laws of their country.

this.

Imagine an author writes a book. Before publishing anything he creates two versions of his manuscript that only differ very slightly (maybe he replaces "which" with "that" in a few places, nothing substantial changes).
One version he sells to his publisher (whom he transfers the copyright or gives an exclusive license) but he doesn't mention the existence of the other version to the publisher at all.
Before the sold version can arrive in stores he self-publishes the second version putting it under CC.
The publisher is sol because all both versions contain slight differences and he only owns the copyright/has an exclusive license to one version but not to the other. The author pockets the flat fee he has negotiated and the public rejoices reading the CC version instead of buying anything from the publisher.

This seems to be what VOLT is doing and imho there is no way it can be legal.

I would prefer CCP changed the wording and only claimed a license, it is just ridiculous to try to claim ownership. It is over kill and really uncalled for.



The 2 situations are not the same. Usually a publishing company shares the copyright with the Author but holds a larger share of it because the way publishers do things. It is really a different situation.

It is better to liken it to paintings, you can buy an original one of a kind painting but that doesn't mean you also get the copyrights.
Unless it is a situation where the art was commissioned and the agreement states that the person commissioning the art controls the copyrights.

Now we can go to Books for a different angle in the area of ghost writing, a ghost writer is commissioned to write a book the person that commissions it hold the copyrights and then they can deal with the publishers themselves. Usually you provide short stories and character ideas and you work along side a ghost writer.

It all really comes down to how the contract is written up.

Read some employment contracts sometime. some of those stipulate that they are entitled to tips that exceed a certain number. They claim ownership of any of your work you do in your spare time at home, usually only works though if the work is related to what you do in the job or what the company you work for does business in.

If you guys all withdraw your IP, CCP will have to make movies and shows about those that don't care....



Op Success. Spell our names right, CCP.

I randomly selected a group of logos from a folder I had on my computer and uploaded them to make the blog pretty.

No tinfoil required

As for the questions that have come up in this thread, I'll see if we can get them answered for you buy legal over the weekend and early into next week