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Why not remodel all the pirate hulls along with the re-balanced?
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Demonotron
Demonotronics
#1 - 2014-02-12 20:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Demonotron
Certain frigate pirate hulls have unique models.

i.e Dramiel and the Daredevil.

and most of the cruiser and BS hulls do not
so it got me thinking

why not remodel some of the pirate cruiser and and battleship hulls too, to give them a unique look?
This could be done in conjunction with any re balance passes CCP are making on the hulls.
and packaged under the theme of the summer expansion.

I would love to see a Daredevil themed Vigilant or Vindi

what do y'all think?
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-02-12 21:02:19 UTC
Remodeling a ship is a pretty resource intensive thing i understand. So its not as if they can just crank them all out with each rebalance.

Also, many would object to seeing their favorite hulls changed, i for one love the Serpentis Megatharon. It makes less sense that the DD is an angel hull and not a reskined Tristen or something. That comes from the lore of Serpentis being a sub faction of the Angels though.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#3 - 2014-02-12 21:09:55 UTC
+1 i agree more unique models especially for unique ships

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
yogg soth
Demonotronics
#4 - 2014-02-12 22:17:38 UTC  |  Edited by: yogg soth
Joelleaveek wrote:
Remodeling a ship is a pretty resource intensive thing i understand. So its not as if they can just crank them all out with each rebalance.

Also, many would object to seeing their favorite hulls changed, i for one love the Serpentis Megatharon. It makes less sense that the DD is an angel hull and not a reskined Tristen or something. That comes from the lore of Serpentis being a sub faction of the Angels though.


there are already 3 hulls that use the Mega shape 4 if you include the Vindi
IMO it would look a heap cooler if it were a scaled up Daredevil looking thing

it makes the ships even more desirable and cool
and more of the same old is more of the same old

plus the remodeling work CCP has done lately has been pretty awesome
Phaade
Know-Nothings
Negative Feedback
#5 - 2014-02-12 23:24:41 UTC
+1

Won't happen though.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-02-12 23:33:32 UTC
rebalancing is simpler when you just change some stats in the code. A new model requires multiple people from the art department working to ensure it looks right (on a completely new model) in the game.
KiithSoban
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#7 - 2014-02-13 00:08:53 UTC
... Because it takes a massive amount of man hours and development time. Hmm.. for the same price do we want more content that could potentially generate emergent game play or do we want something to spin?

That counter is tempting though...

I want to see logi appear on killmails! (by just repping)  See CSM "reasonable things"
Demonotron
Demonotronics
#8 - 2014-02-13 07:42:23 UTC
KiithSoban wrote:
... Because it takes a massive amount of man hours and development time. Hmm.. for the same price do we want more content that could potentially generate emergent game play or do we want something to spin?

That counter is tempting though...


id prefer some man hours invested in new ship models instead of the "ESS" for example tbqfh

but i take your point
SpaceSaft
Almost Dangerous
Wolves Amongst Strangers
#9 - 2014-02-13 09:43:22 UTC
KiithSoban wrote:
... Because it takes a massive amount of man hours and development time. Hmm.. for the same price do we want more content that could potentially generate emergent game play or do we want something to spin?

That counter is tempting though...


Well there is the art team and there is the rest of the dev team that programs, comes up with the ideas and such...

To be brutaly honest I'd be very surprised if the art team doesn't create new mock hulls, at least in concept art, in their work time. Right now they made the deployables and the new SOE ships so they were probably busy with that. I'd not be surprised if they worked on DUST.

So when they got the time I'm sure they spend it on things like this, might not necessarily be ships but other structures like Stations or new site stuff but it's really not a question of "features vs. art".
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
#10 - 2014-02-13 10:56:38 UTC
I love CCP, they are good developers BUT i can not belive that static Ship Models are so time consuming.

Sry CCP there is something fishy here.

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Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#11 - 2014-02-13 13:44:56 UTC
Well, eventually there will be a Pirate ship rebalance, so new/revamped models could be added at that point. For ships that are exactly like their Empire counterparts excepting of color, I'd suggest to add small, distinctive variations of their hull, in the same way T2 ships may have extra engines or different shaped radiator wings than the T1 versions...
Scuzzy Logic
Space Spuds
#12 - 2014-02-13 19:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Scuzzy Logic
KiithSoban wrote:
... Because it takes a massive amount of man hours and development time. Hmm.. for the same price do we want more content that could potentially generate emergent game play or do we want something to spin?

That counter is tempting though...


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What's that? WiS doesn't seem like THAT bad of a waste of resources anymore?

Also, the art team isn't anywhere near the balance team resource-wise.

Komodo Askold wrote:
Well, eventually there will be a Pirate ship rebalance, so new/revamped models could be added at that point. For ships that are exactly like their Empire counterparts excepting of color, I'd suggest to add small, distinctive variations of their hull, in the same way T2 ships may have extra engines or different shaped radiator wings than the T1 versions...


I agree, at the very least add some bits and pieces.

Also, if they're working on the Gila, could you PLEASE give that hull the Scorpion treatment? It's so fugly.